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BSRMmag
12-04-06, 01:38 AM
BSRM Magazine, a new Boston literary and arts periodical, is looking for your submissions for their next issue.

Topic: How do you feel about the future of gender classification and the gender binary system?

Deadline: Friday, December 8th, 2006

E-mail: BSRMsubmit @<hidden> gmail.com

For More Info: www . myspace . com / bsrm

Extended Topic:

During the 1950s, medical doctors performed procedures on young: hermaphrodites, true hermaphrodites, and intersexes, in which they morphed the child's genitalia to fit the scale of an average female's. Many believed this procedure was sparing the children future heart ach and isolation; however, it often led to feelings of resentment, confusion, anxiety, and physical features incongruous to their genitals. Now openly questioned, these operations continue. For our next issue, we are exploring the subjects of both those born without a specified gender and those who fall into the gender binary system, yet choose to live outside the system. How do you feel about the future of gender classification and the gender binary system? Respond to this question or any others that may arise from the topic.


***All of your perspectives are very appreciated.

Priestess
12-04-06, 09:44 AM
I can guess at the connection you are seeing between gender and intersex, but what does this have to do with the arts?

prince....ss?
12-04-06, 11:01 AM
Ok I like the question you are asking and I fit into your extended topic. My question is before I spend time and effort where can we see more about your magazine and what were subjects in your past. The more information line did not work and I got a page not found.

BSRMmag
12-04-06, 01:28 PM
Hello.
The link does not work because this message board has a five post policy, which won't allow me to post the link properly. However, more informtion can be found through the myspace website. I hope you have heard of it. When you type in the myspace url, add a slash and then bsrm.

BSRM is a very new magazine, having only one previous issue. The subject was "flesh." Various artists submitted material dealing with all kinds of aspects related to "flesh" (love, desire, death, etc..). Also, the interview for the previous issue was with a popular body artist featured at the Boston Tattoo Convention (more relation to flesh).

To answer the post above you, the purpose of the gender subject is not to make a direct connection between the arts and gender, it is to answer the question posed by using various forms of artistic media. For example, I have received poems and photographs expressing the view points the artists have regarding gender classification.

I hope my answers help. Please, feel free to ask more.

Thanks.

Sunshine1
12-04-06, 04:40 PM
Your extended topic was really mysterious so wanted to give you boring real information.

I talked with my ped endo and the genital surgery was just repairing what the medical condition Congenital Adrenal Hyperplaisa did and back then was pseudo- hermaphroditism secondary to 11 hydroxylase deficiency Simple -Virilizing Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia and no different than a cardio Doc fixing a heart or a surgeon fixing a cleft palete.

Although no medical condition is easy -I get to live because of the scientific study/discovery that was done in the 1950's.


Do you think it is wrong for doctors to try and correct what a defective adrenal gland did?


Here is a web site that explains CAH www.caresfoundation.org Also if you are interested more about what this condition really is? PLEASE LOOK IN THE CAH section of this web site for the post CAH educational info.

I was born with only female chromosomes, only two ovaries and a uterus - nothing male- no testes but I was born with an adrenal gland that was mssing the ability to make cortisol and thus excessive adrogens were unsupressed and my external gential are was born androgenous looking because of the defect in the adrenal gland.


I take hydrocortiosne that was discovered in the 1950's to correct what my adrenal gland was lacking and this is no different then someone take insulin for juvenile diabetes.

Surgery the best for the time period in the 70's was performed so period
blood could pass out of my body and later be fuckable for some guy later and have his kids like many women with CAH do.

Medicine is always changing and doctors are listening- based on the degree of virilization of female babies with CAH, some clitoral reduction surgeries aren't being performed until later or not at all because this is a different time period. Not all female babies born with CAH were born as virilized as I was and Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia also effects males but the genital area is extra large from the excessive androgens. I know this isn't of intererest to your topic but we can die from adrenal crisis.

I think people with all types of conditions under the umbrella term intersex fit into gender and some don't just like people without any intersex medical conditions - I think it would of been cool to of been born with AIS because I read that many with that condition are models.

I like the name of your magazine. Are you'all one of those alternative funky magazines that have people that would look right past someone like me? I'm not cool or trendy. I thing you are trying to use or conditions to sell and freak them up - which they really aren't. More power to you with this and if I could just ask one thing and that is could you write about adrenal crisis in your article and could you use cool artsy type pictures? I dig that crap.

Sorry, Not a Zebra : )

ummm..... Do you pay people for their works?

BSRMmag
12-04-06, 06:00 PM
Hello, Sunshine1.

I have not read your whole post, but I will say it hurts my heart that you think my magazine is "trying to use our conditions to sell and freak them up." I have not written or indicated anything that would remotely warrant a remark like that. To answer your other question, I don't know if I would look right past you or anyone else on my staff, seeing as how I have never met you. The extended topic is a portion of the background that motivated this issue's question: How do you feel about the future of gender classification and the gender binary system. The question alone does not specifically address intersexes and hermaphrodites, which is probably why most of the material we have received so far related to trasngendered and genderqueer lifestyles. If you don't trust it, then don't submit.
To address your last remark: "could you write about adrenal crisis in your article and could you use cool artsy type pictures?" No, because I am the editor. I will not be doing any of the writing. What gets printed relies on what is sent in.

To repeat for everyone else, this issue is not explicitly about intersexes and hermaphrodites, I am just looking for a broad perspective to the question posed.

However, Sunshine1, thank you for your input.

Sunshine1
12-04-06, 06:30 PM
Please Read my whole first post - every word in it does mean something.

I'm grateful to the people in the 1950's that learned how to help me with my adrenal gland condition that kids die from. No, medicine isn't perfect but we learn from each time period and grow from it.


I did answer your question in the tenth paragraph down - I think that people with all types of conditions under the umbrella term intersex fit into gender and some don't just like people without intersex medical conditions - i think it would of been cool to of been born with AIS because I've read that many with that condition are models.



You don't care to learn what CAH really is about ? : ( or other intersex medical conditions? : (

Gender ? future? binary system or classification ..blah blah : ) Lol, it's not really a binary sytem per say but a spectrum that contracts and widens based on the needs of society. A genderless society? er...no and even the ISNA doesn't go for that.

BSRMmag
12-04-06, 06:55 PM
"You don't care to learn what CAH really is about ? : ( or other intersex medical conditions? : ("

I never said that and you know it.

I have not read your entire post because you did not submit it to the location I specified. I am sure everything you have said is worth reading; however, you did not submit it to the e-mail address previously provided. You have wonderful insight, but I cannot take material from a message board.

I forgot to answer one of your questions. BSRM is a non-profit magazine, so no one gets paid. The cost of print is covered through advertisements.

Thanks for your interest.

Priestess
12-04-06, 08:08 PM
Hi BSRM,

So your magazine is an artistic expression of each issue's theme? Hmm, interesting. Is there any url where we could see how the last edition turned out? Looking at your myspace friends, there do seem to be a lot of DJ's and indie & industrial bands. Does the "runny mascara" part of your name imply anything gothic?

Since you welcome graphic art, I suppose I might able to find you an image or two of a mostly true hermaphrodite. I have lots of pics from my pelvis. It would be nice to write you something, though without knowing a little more about what you want to hear about and only 4 days left until your deadline, that might be a challenge.

Intersex is a wide-ranging subject, and the example you give of surgically feminized infants is only one of many scenarios that have happened. Not everyone with an intersex condition has found themselves on the wrong side of the gender line, but even without that we bear our burdens. And sometimes the scars on the inside are worse than what's visible.

Oh, do you have a name that's more personable than BSRM? Mine's Meliss.

Hello.
The link does not work because this message board has a five post policy, which won't allow me to post the link properly. However, more informtion can be found through the myspace website. I hope you have heard of it. When you type in the myspace url, add a slash and then bsrm.

BSRM is a very new magazine, having only one previous issue. The subject was "flesh." Various artists submitted material dealing with all kinds of aspects related to "flesh" (love, desire, death, etc..). Also, the interview for the previous issue was with a popular body artist featured at the Boston Tattoo Convention (more relation to flesh).

To answer the post above you, the purpose of the gender subject is not to make a direct connection between the arts and gender, it is to answer the question posed by using various forms of artistic media. For example, I have received poems and photographs expressing the view points the artists have regarding gender classification.

I hope my answers help. Please, feel free to ask more.

Thanks.

Sofie
12-05-06, 10:53 AM
Is one blogentry, what you call »more information«?

Sunshine1
12-05-06, 03:07 PM
I think you have a great concept for a magazine but not for me to summit to it. I looked at your www. myspace.com/bsrm link and I don't even know what an indi band is........I guess that it would be that type of stuff though but I do have an adrenal gland medical condition that was the subject of your topic via surgeries and I just wanted to clue you in as to why the surgeries I mean than as how much any medical condition is hard to deal with ...i wouldn't of been able to have period flow able to leave my body if it wasn't for the surgeries that you seem to be against and in the 1950's cortisone was found to help people with CAH live through things like illness and major surgeries- no condition is easy and medicine is constantly building upon itself to make things better. www.caresfoundation.org here is one of the links again for my CAH. I do think gender expands and contracts based on the needs of society and also for reproduction at its core.

I have a cute story - I was a delivery driver and I came in to this place thinking that I was one of the guys with my shorter than short hair - no make up wearing this baseball cap, my work t-shirt (dirty w/ grease) jeans that had oil, grease, dirt that hadn't been washed in a week and my combat work boots. I took in the invoice- had the guy sign it and he had big smile, i thought nothing of it and looked at the drinks in the cooler. went back out to get my money and as I came back in to get a drink and paid for it ...the guy had a bigger smile on his face then he stated you're pretty. I looked at him from under my baseball cap - said "thanks" and walked out. Gender is awlays going to be there and what makes the day fun for many.

I'm sorry that I asked for yo uto put in a little blurb that stated waht CAH is and that we can die from adrenal crisis - i know from reading other magazines that editors can put things in. I ment no harm. If you felt more comfortable with only answering parts of my posts then it's Ok to and I ment no harm by trying to show where a condition like CAH is today by www.caresfoundation .org I'm sorry if you were offended by anything that I wrote AND THE doctors were fixing what the defect adrenal gland did. No condition is easy but I'm grateful to those in the 1950's, 60's because what they went through with CAH made it better for me and I think what I went through in the 70' and 80's might of made it better for others today. I've asked this of other researchers and in a way that is what you but how areyou goingto be able to verify what is submited to you. I might be crazy as a mad hatter and just flew in on the Milky way and/or have sum crazy thyroid conditon and would you really want someones rantings? I'm having fun with you and I like art ....I love museums and cultural crap like that.

I think a genderless world would be boring.

Peace to you and yours .....crazy as a shit house rat ..aren't I but really trash with an adrenal gland condition.

For what it is worth ..you did post this same request on Craigslist and aren't just chumming here.

prince....ss?
12-05-06, 05:33 PM
Peace to you and yours .....crazy as a shit house rat ..aren't I but really trash with an adrenal gland condition.



Crazy yes…trash no. Just how crazy is a shit house rat??? I still like you even with that adrenal gland condition!!!:wavey:

BSRMmag
12-05-06, 06:35 PM
For Sunshine 1:

"For what it's worth...you did post the same request on Craigslist and aren't just chumming here."

I have posted on Craigslist and various other poetry websites. Flyers have been posted all over the local colleges in Boston and Cambridge, as well. Like I said, I'm looking to get a broad perspective. I will definitely take into consideration your point-of-view on the surgeries from the 1950s and find a way to add it into my Editor's note. I do feel enriched by what you have to say and hope you will reconsider submitting your perspective or life experience. And, by the way, you are not "crazy as a shit house rat." You just have a wealth of knowledge and life experience you want to get out to seemingly deaf (or seemingly ignorant) ears. Thank you for all of your input.

For Sofie:

No, one blog entry is not more information. However, if you read the front page it gives more information on how to properly submit material. That is the "more info."

Sunshine1
12-08-06, 05:37 PM
Dear BSRM MAGAZINE,

It is funny that you are here looking for submissions for written work because I have something that I need to submit to a non-profit news paper and I've been toying taking it to them but gosh no me?? submit something to a paper or magazine? It's this block that i have to get over and you're beening on this site was cool because it was like a reminder cough...cough, Over here with us and polish that story you were working on.

I don't have anything up front and center about you particular topic for this magazine because I have a back log of other topics that are before it and I need to take the jump that yep I should look into putting my work out there but it's hard because once you do that? your not the same person. I will always look at your site to see how it is progressing and might submit at another time.

I still don't know what an indi band is but probly just like their music anyway.


Dear Prince....ss?

How crazy is a shit house rat? I'm not sure but seems more crazy than a mall rat.
I'll post more but still not as much as before because school is coming - going to give nursing a try but first have to get through Chemistry for Health Sciences.

Happy Holidays to you and everyone else at this site!

Aimee