Greetings~

[Oven]

My handle is 'Oven', I'm a ladything and a gentleman, a queer and a conformist, a catholic and an anarchist. Like any sort of twenty-something recluse this day and age, I write. I work at a carwash, and don't always perhaps sort of sometimes plan to attend college. Maybe.

I'm too young to be an adult and older than most adults I know.

I am a magical cartoon.

A social chameleon.

An agoraphobic.

A boy. Jealous, protective, rowdy. The figures are in: I am bad at math and spatial reasoning: my brain is not that of a man. The results have proved: I am a linear writer with the conversational prowess of a construction worker: my thoughts are that of a man.

I can't do pushups, but I can operate a dvd player. I can open the pickle jar, but I burn the dinner. I can listen well but I don't share feelings.

Is there a stereotype out there yet that I can settle myself comfortably in? I despise being 'confused', and don't identify as a lesbian. I want to have a wife, to be a father, to lift heavy objects and hunt deer and scratch where it itches.

The results are in: put me in a dress and they still throw food at me. The People. The pitchfork wielders. Teenagers in the street never seem to discriminate who they're catcalling or insulting, but my heart stops and I fear jogging trips because could they know? Is it that obvious? My friends tell me there is something about me they can't place or name, like I'm from a different planet.

Venus.

Mars.

So now I'm doing searches and watching films, joining groups and asking questions. Body Alchemy.

[Kailana]

Welcome to Body's Like Ours, a support forum for those trying to understand, learn, cope, and provide to those who are, or know, or are looking for information and support for those with a genetic, hormonal or otherwise known Variation of reproductive development. Sometimes called Intersexed, sometimes called Hermaphroditism/psuedo-hermaphroditism, or whatever other word you chose to accept for those born with bodies that don't fit the so called norms expected for male and female.

I do not know how well any of us can help you exactly as we tend to provide more information or advice concerning our medical health, our specific condition's and sharing our life experiences. Generally the similarities in our lives sort of shape us into people with some unusual experiences, some really bad, some soso ok, and some good. but overall this is a forum for those dealing with lifes little crappy stumbling blocks. Many of which can be caused by unwanted surgery, forced on us as children, teens, and as adults.

Most of us will have had many experiences involving doctors, hospitals, and many secrets not revealed untill we were much older.

Thank you for stopping by and posting a hello and introducing yourself. but we warned some of the members are not so helpfull, unless your infact trying to learn to cope understand issues dealing with an intersexed condition, so some might be a little cold, should you fit into a transgender identity. I on the other hand will try as best I can if you care to share more. As i am intersexed, and am reassigning. I understand and accept alot that others do not. If your not dealing with an actual medical condition, just be polite and many will try to help if they can. If your dealing with a trans issue, you may want to ask for advice on other forums, as this one tends to run with medical issues and concerns involving medical surgeries dealing with unwanted surgery performed without our consent.

Best wishes

[EMW]

Maybe I'm just being thick-headed or dense...but I am totally confused.

Oven, what sex were you "assigned" at birth? What sex were you reared as? What sex are you living as today and what sex do you think you should be living as?

As for the stereotypes, that's all they are...stereotypes and you're giving them way too much importance.

Please explain your situation more clearly.

Emily

[prince....ss?]

Oven, I really really like that. I assume you wrote that yourself and is about you. Yes longing to be something that you weren't born into and knowing that what you want is not the socially easy road. I see that you are conflicted by what you are and what is expected of you even though the expected has benefits but the costs are too high.

Keep writing you will work it out.

[Kailana]

sorry Oven, but the text is all wrong, looks lifted from another persons thoughts. I don't want to sound all judgemental, cause i honestly think Im not that opinionated, well ok, so maybe I am. But as others have thought your writing was interesting, I would have to say, that I can't tell if is indeed your words and thoughts.

Just noticing the obvious, i probably would of noticed last night if I hadn't of been so tired.

[prince....ss?]

I don't know Kailana someone that writes like that may not be satisfied with average font's and colors. That is some very personal stuff and raw enough that to doubt the author at this point is selling oven short. I would like to read more if any are available. Sorry but I really appreciate that style of wrighting.

That was FUN!

[prince....ss?]

I'm feelin Blue!!! Now I'm feelin red!!! DONE DONE that was fun also...sorry just playing

[Kailana]

you know i am pretty open minded and accept people for who they are, not what they are.

I also like the writer's pose. There is a great deal of Poetry in them there words. that is a skill i do not possess.

i am not knocking or critique'ing the writers senserity, there is alot of gift in expressing oneself that way, but it also makes me wonder if it is authentic, I have an issue with the choice of text used, that is where I have doubt about the authenticity of the author.

I hope at the least that Oven is having an issue with gender identity, I am ok with that, but as it also doesn't explain what is actually going on, all I get is a sense of self-confusion. perhaps it might be better for Oven to post in the Gender Queer thread, She i assume might find more acceptance if s/he uses that thread, as that is sort of what it is for i think.

I am hoping s/he doesn't get flamed as a poser by some of the other's who prefer this forum as an medical condition/Infant Genital Mutilation only support group, as even i have issues with that thought, as not all my surgeries were done as an infant. you know what I mean, Not every one of us, knows about all our surgeries, including me, as i honestly have the rough dates when surgeries were done, but I have no details to absolutely confirm/tell me how much exactly was done.

[prince....ss?]

I understand what your saying. But I have no reason to doubt Oven at this point. It may be Oven's writing or something profound that Oven connects with I don't know but none the less I liked the post and it's in the Meeting Board adn Oven's first post. I'm Kool!