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confused
09-07-08, 09:09 AM
Hi everybody, I have read every thread on this forum and I thank you all because it was very helpfull for me...Last May I discovered my intersex condition and it was very difficult for me to accept it.
When I was 12 I have been operated and after that my parents explained me that I had a malignous tumour and doctors had to remove my uterus and my ovaries. Then I started periodical controls and I started a pill with hormones and they told me that I would have taken it for my entire life.
At 25, i discovered to be CAIS because my sister got married and we needed to make family anaysis before marriage to check if my sister could have CAIS babies. So I discovered everything and it was (it is) very hard. I don't need to explain how i feel, because you know very well but actually i can't lead my life as before, I can't stay with my friends because I'm afraid they could understand and I feel to deceive them as they don't know anything...On the other wise I don't feel to explain them everything, I can't, even because I still feel totally women...My entire life was difficult, because I had to hide my absence of harmpit and pubic hairs and my friends always asked me why I didn't have hairs, and every holiday I was never menstruated, and I had aways to lie, but now it's really harder than before...the relationship with my parents is totally compromised and I'm thinking to leave my job because i feel bad and it's too hard to pretend daily and with everybody that everything is fine, while I feel so bad...anyway, i want to react and i'm sure I can, because I felt this way when my parents told me that I wouldn't have childrens as my ovaries and uterous were removed, but then I reacted very well and I have always been a shiny girl, with many interests and hobbies and friends...
Guys, soory for the long post..I can't stop writing...I have so many questions but this is a post to introduce my self...and mainly I apologize for the way I write, I'm Italian and I don't speack English well so for sure this post has a lot of mistakes!!
I hope you are still awake,thankyou for this site...i haven't found anything similar in Italian...a big hug to all of you!
Welcome to the forum.
Emily
tinytool
09-07-08, 12:37 PM
We understand and I know all about the hiding thing!!!!
Welcome, Confused. If you are looking for support in Italian, you can visit the website of the Italian AIS peer support group AISIA:
http://www.sindromedimorris.org/
Groeten (Dutch for 'regards'), Miriam
Welcome to the site
I too found out I had CAIS in my late twenties. It certainly is difficult to come to terms with the fact that people you trusted (our parents/doctors) have kept back information from us about ourselves.
The way I have been trying to deal with it is to assume that their intentions were that of protection... all be it mis-placed..... It doesn't help much, but I figured if I remind myself of this often enough I might begin to believe it ;)
I have been trying to find out as much about my medical history as possible so that I can piece together the things I need to do to stay healthy and have just attended my first AIS support group meeting. I recommend this too.
I do urge you strongly DO NOT make any big decisions about your life until you feel calmer. Leaving your job now may cause more problems. Perhaps you could arrange some holiday leave or some sort of extended break instead??
big hugs
:grouphug0
Jos
PS YOU/WE ARE TOTALLY WOMEN.... we are !
fraulein_Maria
09-07-08, 08:12 PM
[QUOTE=JOS;16273] and have just attended my first AIS support group meeting. I recommend this too.
>>> congratulations! :) i'm so happy for you! :) <<<
Kailana
09-08-08, 12:01 AM
Just wanted to say that BLO can be a great forum when one is looking for understanding, or acceptance, but in the real world, i have always found acceptance with friends.
I hope you come to that understanding too. My friends are the ones who accept me, they are the ones who are there when i am feeling down, depressed, angry. they understand me the best. Could be that I find my own strengths in them, and return the same trust and understanding with them.
While family isn't always there, as there are many missunderstandings between us. Bad arguments, over lots of things, mostly deeling with trust and dishonesty. I do hope you find BLO a usefull sight as there are many here who can provide some reasurance that we are ok, no matter what condition we have.
hope to see you post again.
... have just attended my first AIS support group meeting.
Yeah!!!!! :beer: It was great to meet you at the AISSG-UK meeting.
Groeten, Miriam
prince....ss?
09-08-08, 11:50 AM
Welcome to the group confused. I did not find out until I was in my 40's at first it felt like I was thrown under a buss. Work the day after my discovery was not productive and it took a while to get a grip on things but it got easier with time.
The more you talk about it the easier it gets.
Jos
PS YOU/WE ARE TOTALLY WOMEN.... we are !
this is a bit off subject but your line here brought back frustrating memories for me. I know AIS is different from my condition but when I first discovered my true condition I had many people hit me with that line. It sounded so desperate and for me it did not fit. I'm not saying that line is good or bad to use just for me it brought back some strange memories.
Welcome to the group confused. I did not find out until I was in my 40's at first it felt like I was thrown under a buss. Work the day after my discovery was not productive and it took a while to get a grip on things but it got easier with time.
The more you talk about it the easier it gets.
Jos
this is a bit off subject but your line here brought back frustrating memories for me. I know AIS is different from my condition but when I first discovered my true condition I had many people hit me with that line. It sounded so desperate and for me it did not fit. I'm not saying that line is good or bad to use just for me it brought back some strange memories.
Prince...ss, I understand your point about Jos's statement not fitting you and I empathize; however, taken in context, this is the AIS forum, and she as someone with AIS is telling someone else with AIS that statement. For the majority of us with AIS her comment has a lot of merit because upon finding out our diagnosis we often question our own validity as women. I for one found out during puberty and having already years before figured out that I was attracted solely to same sex began years of questioning myself -- was I attracted to the same sex because I really was a boy, and hence not the same sex at all??? Point being that Jos's statement was wholly appropriate in this context.
- Emily :smash:
prince....ss?
09-08-08, 03:18 PM
I never said it was not appropriate.
I did not say it was the wrong thing to say.
I said that it brought back memories.
I did not say they were even bad memories.
I did say that when you first get news such as this and you have confusion it gets frustrating when everyone tries to tell you that you are a real woman.
I also said that when people told me that it sounded desperate. as in if you say it or hear it enough it will be the truth.
Some things need to be worked out for themselves.
So you are jumping on me/ correcting me WHY?
prince....ss?
09-08-08, 03:55 PM
I for one found out during puberty and having already years before figured out that I was attracted solely to same sex began years of questioning myself -- was I attracted to the same sex because I really was a boy, and hence not the same sex at all???
What does having a sexual attraction to one sex or the other have to do with being or feeling male or female? If you were sexually attracted to farm animals it still would have no bearing on what gender you perceive yourself.
I find it nice that people with AIS for the most part don't have gender issues and I am happy for them all. I also find it interesting that there is a Mantra of "I am AIS, I am woman" and if your AIS you must be woman also. Just keep in mind that perfectly normal people can have gender identity issues so it is possible that some people with AIS could have similar issues. I think confused will figure it out for herself
confused
09-08-08, 04:55 PM
:thinking2 :? Guys, thankyou all, I can't stop crying while I'm reading you...you are really nice with me...sorry, I'm not sure I'm replying or I'm opening a new post...I hope I'm replying... I have so many questions but now I don't feel to ask everything...I know it's stupid but actually I can't trust my endo doctor because he continued lying to me even after my discover, because he told me a lot of stupid things to let me accept the situation better but then, reading this forum and other information about CAIS I discovered not true...Now, I'm only looking for the truth, even if it's painfull I want to know everything and I can't rely on him, so I'm making some experimentations on my own but it's necesserary now (for example on the dosage of hormones...I take Yasminelle, a pill with etilinestradiol 0,020 mg and drospirenon 3 mg)...what do you think about this dosage? I often feel tired, in the evening and when it's too hot ... and I have a big problem:I sweat a lot and I have hot flashes in the face, not only during the summer and I have read that this problem is linked with the ipogonadism and with reduced testo (I haven't test at all, even if my endo says that my kidneys produce some testo but I could read that it's not true because our bodies don't absorb androgens...).
Kaliana you are very lucky because you have great friends, I'm not sure my friends could look at me in the same way if I tell them my condition (actually I feel impossible to explain them all, it would be too difficult...). Miriam thank you for the information, that site was my safety because there I could find important information...unfortunetely it's only a web site with the chance to send an e mail with questions but it's not a forum.
Jos, you said something very important for me because I know that parents want to protect us and I love them even because actually I think that it would have been better if I never had known about CAIS, I would have lived happier thinking that I was a girl with a past tumour...I'm happy because I could live happily untill 25 thanks to my parents because now, after this discover, everything is changed and I'll never be as before...anyway I feel woman and Princess you are right that peolple repeating you that you ARE woman is annoying because you feel they want only to calm down you (I hate my family who wants to pretend that everything is ok, that I'm a normal girl and I don't have to feel different...i have always felt different even before dicovering everything), but for me it was very important to listen from Jos that WE ARE WOMEN, because finally I found someone who can understand me at all and even if I don't know Jos, I trust her more than people around me. It would seem stupid but I wanted someone like me saying this sentence. I really feel women even because I have always been sure to be a women (even if I felt different from my friends but I never had doubts on my sex and on my sexual predilection), so Jos thank you because the last sentence has given me a big power...
My endo says that we are women at all, even more women that XX women, but I can't stop thinking at what I would be without HRT...if I stop my pill, what does it happen in your opinion? How would my body become? more masculine? and what about my voice? I really would like to know but if i stop taking the pill, my osteoporosis could get worse, so I prefer to avoid, but I'm courious to understan what I really am, my real being, without external factors that make me women...
I hope you understand me, my way of writing english is bad, so I can't express exactly what I would say...anyway, thank you all...I'm wondering if time, in this case, helps to surpass this pain and if one day I'll spend a whole day without thinking that I have born intersexed.
I swear it's my last post so long!
A big hug to all of you, I already feel you so close and so dear!
confused
09-08-08, 04:57 PM
Ok, i can't insert smiles...i made some mess with smiles...
Sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable in any way prince....ss? and in one sense I think you do have a point, just because you are told something does not mean that the person saying it is RIGHT!
But in this case I am simultaneously not wrong... and it really was not a comment made to make confused feel better.
I feel to deceive them... because I still feel totally women
prince....ss I ask you (with kindness) to explain why confused would be deceitful to claim a label of female? :-D
Confused, remember that none here are responsible for your health in quite the same way as your doctor is (you could at least sue them if they're completely wrong). It is probably unwise to experiment on yourself all alone too lol.
But I personally found that asking 'the right questions' got me a lot more answers. If your doctor knows that you are learning a lot about your own condition, they will also have to start reading up more to remain the EXPERT... just the incentive they need to work a bit harder. Maybe I was just lucky, but I seemed to find they talked down to me less when it became clear I was able to talk to them using their terms a bit more.
Try not to be fobbed off either... we have a saying in the U.K.... "the squeaky wheel gets the oil".... you must go back and go back again... and again... until you make it clear that you don't feel 'right' yet.
Ultimately, if you cannot trust your doctor, perhaps you could ask to be referred to someone else?
And Miriam... right back at you ;0)... meeting you was REALLY great and some of your comments made me think again about some issues, rather than just going on my gut instincts... thank you
much love to you all
Jos
prince....ss?
09-08-08, 07:17 PM
I do understand what you are going through. I just went through that about 3 years ago. This is why I understood that everyone you talk to keeps telling you your still my sister, your still my daughter, your still a woman. I understand the crying all the time and how difficult it is to face people. This is what was in my head the first week after finding out about my condition
"Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female
Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female
Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female Male pseudo hermaphrodite/ Reassigned to female"
Does that look familiar? Yes this is a big shock and yes it sucks that things are being held from you. But it will get easier with time ....I promise!!!
Feel free to post all you want where you want and as long as you want. Ask any question. You just need to remember that you are not alone. If you need to or want to have someone call you and talk just ask. We do share personal information in PM's and phone conversations happen all the time. No worries you have friends here.
I cant help with your questions about your HRT but many here do understand the medical stuff quite well. I'm sure someone can answer that or at least comment if it sounds normal.
Jos
"prince....ss I ask you (with kindness) to explain why confused would be deceitful to claim a label of female?"
I am not saying that she would be deceitful to claim womanhood. I'm saying that to discover your AIS as an adult is a very difficult thing to deal with. Most people don't even know what AIS is. Then to have the fact that your are xy with testicles would throw the strongest woman for a loop. It almost destroyed me. I know what the wrong end of a 44 Mag. looks like up close and I'm one strong person. But with this new information it will take time for her to realize and understand that the xy or the testicles will not make her any less of a woman if that is how she feels. That is a lot of information spinning around so fast that nothing makes sense. Confused just needs time to sort things out ...learn about her condition...and come to terms with herself for who she is.
Your comment just sparked a memory and when your where Confused is at sometimes that statement just does not help... I do know that they are given with all good intentions but it's something that just sticks in your head.
The Female Eunuch
09-08-08, 11:25 PM
What does having a sexual attraction to one sex or the other have to do with being or feeling male or female?
logically it doesn't, but it's an easy thing to latch onto as a source of an answer when the other evidence is confusing or contradictory. Partly because either heterosexuality is taken for granted, or it's considered polite to assume someone is heterosexual unless stated otherwise. I think that's stronger in female circles than in male circles, because of the female tendency to 'bond' by talking about crushes. I think that's why it felt to me like a logical piece of evidence to latch onto as a teenager.
cheers,
caroline
I never said it was not appropriate.
I did not say it was the wrong thing to say.
I said that it brought back memories.
I did not say they were even bad memories.
I did say that when you first get news such as this and you have confusion it gets frustrating when everyone tries to tell you that you are a real woman.
I also said that when people told me that it sounded desperate. as in if you say it or hear it enough it will be the truth.
Some things need to be worked out for themselves.
So you are jumping on me/ correcting me WHY?
Prince...ss, my point was only that as someone with AIS, statements such as, "we are totally women," is very reassuring, comforting and affirming at times in our life when we are questioning our own validity as women after learning the truth. I do however understand that a person with a different IS condition other than AIS for example, a statement like that may have just the opposite effect or not nearly the impact, or in your case trigger "strange" memories.
Really there isn't more to it than that.
Emily :)
What does having a sexual attraction to one sex or the other have to do with being or feeling male or female? If you were sexually attracted to farm animals it still would have no bearing on what gender you perceive yourself.
I find it nice that people with AIS for the most part don't have gender issues and I am happy for them all. I also find it interesting that there is a Mantra of "I am AIS, I am woman" and if your AIS you must be woman also. Just keep in mind that perfectly normal people can have gender identity issues so it is possible that some people with AIS could have similar issues. I think confused will figure it out for herself
Taken in context, my point was that I went through a confusing time in my early teens. When I learned that I was XY, some of my first thoughts were that it explained why I was attracted to females rather than males. I was young and trying to make sense of a lot of things. I didn't understand why I was gay, then add to that confusion learning that I was XY and I really started questioning my own validity as a woman. I wish there was someone like Jos in my life when I was that young, telling me that I was still totally female, a little affirmation would have gone a long way.
You are missing my point however if you are comparing my statement to being attracted to farm animals. The norms of society to a 14 year old can be very black and white. Boys like girls. Girls like boys. Girls however are not supposed to like girls, but if someone tells you that you really are XY and that a boy is XY it might explain the attraction to girls which in turn can force one to question their own validity as a female. Now that I'm much older, of course that logic seems silly, but when I was 14 it was very upsetting for me.
Emily
confused
09-09-08, 05:07 PM
Hi everybody. I look forward to coming back home to open the laptop and come on the forum, it's a drug...I still thank you all for the answers and for your availability! I don't post on other threads because actually they are too focused on the meaning of words and my english language doesen't allow me to take part at this discussions and to understand perfectly...anyway, Princess it looks very familiar (I still hate my Y) and it's so encoraging that time helps, even if unfortunetely it's not a week I have discovered my situation...I did it in May but I'm starting to menage it and to react just now, after the worst summer of my life...In fact I have started writing and I have registered after a long period in which I just read the forum...This situation made me understand that I'm less strong than I imagined, but now I'm going to react...so I promise all of you that I'll stop lament since now :grin: Thanks...
JOSIf your doctor knows that you are learning a lot about your own condition, they will also have to start reading up more to remain the EXPERT... just the incentive they need to work a bit harder. Maybe I was just lucky, but I seemed to find they talked down to me less when it became clear I was able to talk to them using their terms a bit more.
Jos effectly I'll do it, because I'm sure my endo is a good person and a good doctor too and, as my mother always says, he "loves" me because he follows me since I have born and he wanted only to help me, but I'm 25 and now I want the truth...
JOSTry not to be fobbed off either... we have a saying in the U.K.... "the squeaky wheel gets the oil"....
I'm not sure to have understood exactly what the saying means but I guess so :thinking2
Guys, thank you all, I'm so glad to have met all ofyou and I hope one day I could be usefull with new members like you are with me and i send you all many kisses!
:grouphug0
Shock can be a funny thing.
I often cope fine while something is happening... like when I found out the doctors had left one of my testicles in me and it had developed a malignant seminoma. I coped just fine... or at least everyone told me I did!!
Two years on and the numbness is beginning to wear off
(metally and physically)
Now I'm beginning to feel again - just not too sure HOW I feel now?
So I can't tell you how long it will take but I think, just like the grief I felt for the children I'll never bare, it is a process! And given time I will learn to cope.
I wish for you to learn to cope with this information too.
The "squeaky wheel gets the oil" saying means -
people who keep asking for help are the ones who get help,
those who suffer in silence may just continue to suffer.
If you need help, ASK for help and don't accept NO for an answer :0)
:grouphug0
I can definately see why you would not trust this endocrinologist but going it alone is surely not the only remaining option available to you.
You can ask to be referred to a new doctor... or at least you can in the UK... maybe not in Italy???
jos
fraulein_Maria
09-09-08, 07:41 PM
[QUOTE=JOS;16389]:grouphug0
Shock can be a funny thing.
Two years on and the numbness is beginning to wear off
(metally and physically)
Now I'm beginning to feel again - just not too sure HOW I feel now?
>>> mostly with your fingers, but sometimes with your toes? :)
I know it hurts :cry: but i hope you will remember that you are loved... and feel that love from them that care...
because the best part about the numbness going and the pain coming... is that it means the healing isn't far behind...
course you'll feel a bit itchy first, LOL
but seriously, the healing is coming. in the mean-time, your growing as a person... and soon you will see that your heart has grown... depths of compassion and courage you could not have imagined before becoming real.....
hearts need to be cut open... before they can get bigger.
confused
09-10-08, 03:50 PM
I'm definetely lucky to have found a place like BLO...thank you guys...reading your suggestions makes me feel really better and brave...and moreover ... I'm learning a lot of english words (and saying too), much more than in five years of high school!!! :lol:
jamesjames
09-11-08, 07:21 AM
I'm definetely lucky to have found a place like BLO...thank you guys...reading your suggestions makes me feel really better and brave...and moreover ... I'm learning a lot of english words (and saying too), much more than in five years of high school!!! :lol:
Hi ms confused,
I am sorry for what u are going through and happy for coping well. I would like to share some information personally if you can mail me at james762000@<hidden>
Thank you
James
prince....ss?
09-11-08, 08:35 AM
WARNING!!!
Confused this website is plagued with people that want to "Date" intersex people or have other correspondences that may not be helpful or welcome.
JamesJames has only one post so nobody here knows what he is about so I recommend that you don't email him. Time will tell if he is nice or a predator.
Sorry JamesJames, we don't know you.
Moderator time to remove the email address in this post
Hi ms confused,
I am sorry for what u are going through and happy for coping well. I would like to share some information personally if you can mail me at james762000@<hidden>
Thank you
James
Ewwwwwwwwwww....gross...
...dude...go away....far...far...away...
jamesjames
09-11-08, 12:45 PM
Sorry guys,
I am extremely sorry for the isunderstanding. I would like to share some of my personal information. I dont know what I am suffering from. I am like a normal male person, 31 year old and I developed upto tanner stage 3-4 sexual development and I have anosmia. I may or may not be having kallman syndrome. I did not go through any diagnostic tests, because I am scared of the relity. I am interested in marrying a complete androgegen insensitive woman to share my life. I am well educated and in a well settled position. I wanted to help my self and the other who is going through a similar stressful condition. I am sorry if I hurted anybody feelings. I dont mean to behave like a predator. I am one like you who is going through the stress for the last twenty years. Please dont misundestand me.
Thank you
Jamesjames
Sorry guys,
I am extremely sorry for the isunderstanding. I would like to share some of my personal information. I dont know what I am suffering from. I am like a normal male person, 31 year old and I developed upto tanner stage 3-4 sexual development and I have anosmia. I may or may not be having kallman syndrome. I did not go through any diagnostic tests, because I am scared of the relity. I am interested in marrying a complete androgegen insensitive woman to share my life. I am well educated and in a well settled position. I wanted to help my self and the other who is going through a similar stressful condition. I am sorry if I hurted anybody feelings. I dont mean to behave like a predator. I am one like you who is going through the stress for the last twenty years. Please dont misundestand me.
Thank you
Jamesjames
...and I say again...ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...gross...
prince....ss?
09-11-08, 01:34 PM
I am interested in marrying a complete androgegen insensitive woman to share my life. ......... Please dont misundestand me.
Now you have me curious.
What specifically do you think a CAIS woman has to offer that a normal woman can't offer in a relationship?
SO what is it about a CAIS woman that has your interest?
What would make a CAIS woman better for you than a normal woman?
I do understand you but do you understand yourself???
Would you settle for a PAIS woman (they have uterouses)???
OK I'm really digging now. I know of a few women with CAH that are single would they interest you?
I am truly interested in your response.
jamesjames
09-11-08, 03:55 PM
Dear,
I really posted in this forum with a good intention. I really don’t want to hurt anybody feelings.
I have some specific reasons why I am interested in complete androgen insensitive woman not a normal woman.
I don’t know whether I can have children, but still I can have an average married life. I don’t want put a normal woman in stress for a male factor. That’s why I wanted to for a complete AI woman. At this point of time I haven’t thaught about partial AI woman or CAH. May be I will think about that option later. I knew that CAI woman cant bear children, that’s why I wanted to marry a CAIS, because we can understand mutually. I knew about all this terminology because I am related to medical field. When it comes to my condition, I am not sure about the diagnosis, I might be having kallman syndrome. But I am sure that I can have an average married life.
I don’t want to hurt anyones feelings. If it is so I am extremely sorry.
James
Kailana
09-11-08, 04:14 PM
James, this forum is very carefull about not letting people harass members, and your post sounded very trollish in nature. Many here are cautious of post like yours, some very offended, just be carefull in what you ask and how.
I hope you find the forum beneficial to you, but you should know that many intersexed condition's can leave a person affected by them sterile, not just CAIS. I hope you are getting some kind of medical information from your doctors concerning your health. You may need to ask for more information and testing from your doctor to understand what you have better. Kallmans syndrome may share many similarities with many different condition's , so I wouldn't suggest its Kallman's you have without actually knowing you have Kallman's, becuase you could have another I.S. condition that is just similar. I would also add, you may want to describe your tanners 3-4 that you mentioned in the meeting thread, provide your own introduction and ask for advice there in that thread rather then continuing to post in this AIS thread, oh and for meeting people, maybe go to the ISISOIS thread and post there too. By the way that ISISOIS is monitor edited for content and approval, but maybe that is the most appopriate place to let people know your looking for others want to share information with others, by providing your information and if anyone feels like it, they can go to you, instead of you asking for people to release informatin that is theirs. It can save alot of missunderstandings from happening.
prince....ss? said
Would you settle for a PAIS woman (they have uterouses)???
were you just testing?
prince....ss?
09-11-08, 06:52 PM
LOL:teeth_smi I don't know Jos....what was I thinking...wait that post was more than 5 minutes ago so I can't remember ...wait...what am I doing now? Old age is getting worse...sorry.
confused
09-11-08, 07:13 PM
Hi guys... Dear James James, if you need information and support, please don't hesitate to ask...this is a forum and we can share every information here...but if you are looking for a CAIS partner, I think it's not the right place and anyway I'm not interested in!
Big hugs to all...:wink_smil
Did I understand this correctly...this dude is looking for a AIS woman...he also said he doesn't want to put a "normal" woman "in stress for a male factor."
What the fuck does that mean?
I feel like a pretty normal woman...no wait...some one has to be the psycho bitch on this forum...let's make that me...and I'm really suspicious of new people I meet...
...you know what...jamesjames...you are still coming off as a sicko troll looking for a trill...and I'm getting sicker by the post...
so I say for a third time....ewwwwwwwwwwwww...gross.
Here's what I'm hearing jamesjames say:
Hi, I'm looking for a woman who cannot conceive a child of her own because I might be sterile. I don't want to burden a normal women who can conceive a child with my possible sterility. Which is why I'm looking for one of those fucked up AIS women because since they can't conceive themselves, they obviously wouldn't want a child anyway.
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey jamesjames --
I can't speak for all AIS woman, but I can tell you this -- I've wanted children for as long as I can remember. And if I'm with a man (not that it would ever happen), it would be nice if we could use his swimmers and a surrogate in order to have children of our own.
What makes you think that an AIS woman doesn't want to have children?
jamesjames, if you are for real, you are making yourself seem very small minded!
Prince...ss, wrote, "Would you settle for a PAIS woman (they have uterouses)???"
So I just took another look...nope...still no uterus.
Emily
Oh yeah, one more thing...can we please let this thread die already...it's rotten and starting to stink!!!
Emily
The Female Eunuch
09-12-08, 04:26 AM
EMW wrote:Prince...ss, wrote, "Would you settle for a PAIS woman (they have uterouses)???"
So I just took another look...nope...still no uterus.
How did you do that?
I have to wait weeks to get scans to see what's inside my body, and still have trouble getting doctors to tell me what I'm seeing.
EMW wrote:
How did you do that?
I have to wait weeks to get scans to see what's inside my body, and still have trouble getting doctors to tell me what I'm seeing.
Well if Prince...ss can magically make a PAIS woman have a uterus then who says I can't use my x-ray eyes to simply look inside myself to see if maybe one grew since I was born and I hadn't noticed it.
Emily :D
prince....ss?
09-12-08, 03:50 PM
Ok...OK...OK one little brain fart and you will never let me live it down:embaresse
I still don't know what I was thinking. I must have been corn-fused. Way to late to edit. :oops:
Have your fun at my expense...I can take it. I'll just stand in the corner, hang my head in shame, and cry till I have no more tears, then beg for your forgiveness. You can even poke me with a stick if it makes you feel better.:cry_smile :cry_smile :cry_smile
Have your fun at my expense...I can take it. I'll just stand in the corner, hang my head in shame, and cry till I have no more tears, then beg for your forgiveness. You can even poke me with a stick if it makes you feel better.:cry_smile :cry_smile :cry_smile
...I would need to turn the S&M room into a kids room then I wouldn't know where to hang the sex sling. That room is the only room in the house that can support that much weight hanging from the ceiling. ...
Poke you with a stick? No! :whipg:
:happy68:
Groeten, Miriam
Ok...OK...OK one little brain fart and you will never let me live it down:embaresse
I still don't know what I was thinking. I must have been corn-fused. Way to late to edit. :oops:
Have your fun at my expense...I can take it. I'll just stand in the corner, hang my head in shame, and cry till I have no more tears, then beg for your forgiveness. You can even poke me with a stick if it makes you feel better.:cry_smile :cry_smile :cry_smile
No worries, I have brain farts all the time! LOL
prince....ss?
09-12-08, 09:29 PM
Thanks Miriam,
I needed a good chuckle this evening:nerd:
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