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JOS
09-13-08, 07:39 PM
... to move the testicles of an AIS infant who has had an inguinal hernia... that is, rather than to remove them?

I got the impression that it was uncommon... hence why the gyno who "treated" me didn't find mine ... infact the oncologist currently treating me intimated that!

Or maybe... is it now common practice but wasn't in the '70's-90's??

fraulein_Maria
09-13-08, 08:15 PM
[QUOTE=JOS;16522]... to move the testicles of an AIS infant who has had an inguinal hernia... that is, rather than to remove them?

>>> in the US it seems... don't know about the UK <<<

I got the impression that it was uncommon... hence why the gyno who "treated" me didn't find mine ...

>>> she didn't find them because she saw only what she expected to see....

can't fault her for that though.... most people do see, only what they expect to see.... <<<

infact the oncologist currently treating me intimated that!

>>> possible... though it could be a case of the "old boy" doc network of backing each other up no matter how aweful (or lying) another doc is.... unless someone DIES, then they MIGHT get up in arms about it. <<<

Or maybe... is it now common practice but wasn't in the '70's-90's??

>>> i find it hard to believe that treament options would go backward.... more likely that they used to rip them out willy-nilly, but stopped that nonsense when they discovered that children need there gonads to develop normally, or else go on HRT....

shhhhhhh... children's gonads produce tiny amounts of sex hormone.

not anywhere near what they'll produce as adolescents, but enough to maintain there primary sex characteristics.

at the other end of the age spectrum, XX women after menopause still produce some estrogen.... enough to maintain there primary sex characteristics... but not enough to maintain there bone density among other side issues.
Children do not have this problem because in childhood, its Growth Hormone, not sex hormone, that not only maintains bone, but enables it to grow in length as well as density.

JOS
09-13-08, 08:44 PM
oh and ... not to seem pedantic...

but the gynecologist, when I was 15, was a man... as is the oncologist
actually all my doctors were male until the one who finally let slip the truth
wonder if there's some significance to that???

(LOL... notice how I assume their sex.... LOL)

fraulein_Maria
09-13-08, 09:22 PM
[QUOTE=JOS;16526]oh and ... not to seem pedantic...

but the gynecologist, when I was 15, was a man... as is the oncologist
actually all my doctors were male until the one who finally let slip the truth
wonder if there's some significance to that???

>>> yes, there is. it means that for some reason i cannot possibly fathom, your thought that a man might know more about a woman's body than another woman... or was there a shortage of female gynecologists?

was the one who let it slip female?

then i suspect that she could not stomach lying to another obviously level-headed adult female.... SHE would want to know the truth... therefore, she told you.

unable to identify with you, the men patronized you... as they do most women. not all men. not all male doctors. but FAR TOO MANY.....

EMW
09-14-08, 12:26 AM
For sure it used to be standard to simply remove them, and to some doctors it still is, but for the most part, as Maria already said, there are huge advantages to getting your hormones "naturally." A more common practice for AIS is to wait until puberty is over and then remove them because as I understand it the chance for them becoming cancerous is fairly low until then (at least that it what I was told).

I'd also like to see it become common practice to freeze the testes of AIS women for possible future reproductive value. The more I read, the closer it looks like it's going to be possible in the near future to take those undeveloped swimmers and make them viable for fertilization.


Emily