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UConn Lambda
10-02-08, 07:38 PM
THURSDAY OCTOBER 16th, 2008

University of Connecticut School of Law
Lambda Law Society's National Coming Out Week Panel

"Born Between Sexes: The Medical and Legal Status of Intersex People"

SPEAKERS
Anne Tamar Mattis, Founder and Director of Advocates for Informed Choice

Nancy Ehrenreich, University of Denver College of Law, Professor of Law

Dr. Norman Spack, Pediatric Endocrinologist and Director of Gender Management Service Clinic at Boston Children's Hospital

Universitity of Connecticut School of Law
45 Elizabeth Street
Hartford, CT
William R. Davis Courtroom, Starr Hall
Thursday, October 16, 2008
6:00-9:00 PM

Reception to follow the event

Please RSVP to chris.argyros@<hidden> by Monday, October 6th

Presented by Lambda Law Society

Shipman & Goodwin, LLP
Women’s Law Students Association
Health Law Interest Group
The University of Connecticut Law School Foundation, Inc.
the University of Connecticut School of Law
and the University of Connecticut School of Medicine

Anis789
10-02-08, 08:29 PM
Thanks for the thread, I don't live in the US but anyone does go please plese please do post in this thread to share what went on, thank you UConn Lambda

roguekiwixxy
10-02-08, 08:45 PM
"Born Between Sexes: The Medical and Legal Status of Intersex People"




New Zealand law would make all this irrelevant. In New Zealand everyone (except parents or of their children) have the right to refuse medical treatment UNLESS they have a communicable disease like Tuberculosis, then they can be forcibly jailed and made to take treatment.

When it comes to doctor deciding on whether a child should be operated on the parents views are irrelevant. Doctors who want to operate will simply take the parents to court and have their will forced on the child. That has been done several times in my lifetime. Usually those matters are to do with ending a life, or making a child have treatment even when the chances of success are virtually zero.

But not all of what the medical profession can do here is all that bad, such as no parent can have their son circumcised in a NZ public hospital, they have to go to a private hospital or a G.P. prepared to do the evil deed.

But if a child was born with ambuigious sexual development here, I expect before anyone could protest, the doctors would do the surgery and answer questions later, that seems to be the way things are done here.

I suppoise they might chnange, but I doubt it. The mnedical profession is notorious for slow moiving.

melonade
10-02-08, 09:29 PM
Graeme, I think you are missing their connotations when they mention the legal status of the intersexed. They mean, in a country like the US that only offers two possible legal sexes, which legal sex the intersexed individual is catagorized as.

And due to the fact that the legal sex will be visibly printed on one's identification. And due to the fact that very soon a national "real id" id card is to be required for all, to be presented in most transactions and have a "RFID" chip to broadcast one's personal data to anyone within radio range. That legal sex will have enormous social consequences to the individual.

The problem is, the intersexed are never offered their free will to choose their social sex as best befits them. Doctors define them by inalterable medical/genetic guidelines, and too bad if the intersexed person doesn't like it that way.

The legal sex of the intersexed are decided by the standards of the particular area (state) where they were born, and the national id will follow whatever that state decides, with no form of appeal possible.

In the state of Texas, all girls born with complete 100 percent AIS are boys, because of the Y chromosome, and it doesn't matter that their anatomy doesn't really agree. And they are never allowed to be legally considered female, ever, until the day they die. Because the state of Texas says so, and no other state will override their decision. There are other states just as horrible.

And in a homophobic country which is willing to call a CAIS woman in love with a man, a "homosexual male", she will be persecuted legally, and never allowed to marry.

The legal status is more important than you think.

roguekiwixxy
10-03-08, 12:49 AM
The legal status is more important than you think.

Well in New Zealand, anyone can legally 'marry' anyone althoughnit's not called marriage if the two involved are not male and female, it's called a Civil Union, performed at a Registry Office by a Marriage Celebrant or at any Church that performs that type of service by a Marriage Celebrant.

We had a Transgendered MP Georgina Byer (might have the surname wrong) and I have nio idea if a Transgfendered person can legally change their gender from what they were assigned at birth in New Zealand, possibly Caroline knows?

So the laws in New Zealand are better suited to persons when it comes to day to day living than it seems in some parts of the USA. So, possibly you can check out NZ Law and see if any can be used as a model for US Laws in the future?