Hi, I'm John

[Horus]

During the last few years, I've had a strong interest in the subject of Intersex people and the difficulties they face in this world. I myself am not Intersex; I am Bisexual. But I want very much to be of help to Intersex folk, in any way I can.
To me, Intersex biology is totally natural. There are in reality three species of human being:
Male
Female
Intersex

The latter can be called the Third Sex. Their biology is in NO WAY the result of birth defects; they are not deformed in any shape or form. They do not have some strange disease. They are simply another form of Nature, a form that is truly beautiful and wondrous because Mother Nature, and God the Creator, created them!
Therefore, it's a huge mistake for these people to be operated on to make their genitals so-called "normal." Such surgery is extremely harmful, especially when it's done without their permission, when the person is only a baby, when they are at the mercy of parents who erroneously think their child has a deformity.
Intersex folk should love and accept themselves unconditionally and AS THEY ARE IN ALL THEIR NATURAL BEAUTY! They are a gift to humanity from Mother Nature and from the Creator Her/Himself.

John

[Kailana]

interesting post.

I applaud your acceptance of all things naturall. But i should point out that even amongst us, we do have our own acceptance of what we are. Sometimes being intersex really does add a whole lot of confusion to our lives and the acceptance of ourselves often leads us to a gender specific to one of those norms people do expect. Male or Female.

I hope all do take the time to read your post, and take some time to reflect on the many variations within humanity.

Stealing peaceandparties quote: "We are not all the same, but we are one".
I hope i got that right.

[Horus]

interesting post.

I applaud your acceptance of all things naturall. But i should point out that even amongst us, we do have our own acceptance of what we are. Sometimes being intersex really does add a whole lot of confusion to our lives and the acceptance of ourselves often leads us to a gender specific to one of those norms people do expect. Male or Female.

I hope all do take the time to read your post, and take some time to reflect on the many variations within humanity.

Stealing peaceandparties quote: "We are not all the same, but we are one".
I hope i got that right.

Thanks, Kailana, for your feedback and kind words. I fully understand how confused Intersex people can feel, especially under pressure from so-called "normal" society. And, if an Intersex person strongly feels the need to undergo surgery to change their genitalia to either male or female, then probably it's best for their psychological health to do so. But I think they would do better to accept themselves as they are, not as the victim of some deformity or disease (which it is NOT), but as perfectly natural products of Mother Nature. These people are a human species in their own right: a Third Sex in addition to Male and Female.
Yes indeed, we are not all the same, but we are One. It is the beauty of natural diversity, the spice of Life which is variety. The differences within humanity are our strength, and should not be sources of conflict, intolerance and disunity.
I understand that Intersex folk have to deal with a lot of prejudice and intolerance from those who do not understand them, even as Transgender, gay and bisexual people have to.
Many, who are Transgender, undergo Sex Change operations because their psychological attitudes are at odds with the physical body they were born with. For example, they feel Female, even though their body is Male. In those cases, it's best for their well-being to have the necessary operation, just as some Intersex people, who feel the urgent need to change to either male or female, would be better off having corrective surgery. But, if they can love and accept themselves as they are, and not think of themselves as deformed in some way, then they would benefit greatly.
The simplicity of Self-Love and Self-Acceptance can put an end to any confusion they feel.

[Kailana]

I do not think it has anything to do with normal society. Most people in society are very understanding and accepting about those who are intersex.
I believe it is a medical missconception that some few within the medical world have pushed that says the intersex or abhorrent, anomolies, sexual variants and deviants that must not be allowed to exist.

That said, I do feel that for some of us the use of surgery to make us fit into a binary social gender of male or female without our consent has left some of us in a gender we will never accept.

That is me, your comment on the self loving self acceptance is a hard belief for me to accept because I have had a lot of surgeries and I reject them all. Had I been completely left alone I still believe I would have chosen female for myself. See, I can accept a 3rd gender, but not an abused 3rd gender that have been forced to be something else. The physical act of forcing a male or female gender onto anyone is what i reject most of all. Self acceptance of what any of us our though is a noble goal worth achieving. But the self acceptance is our own personal acceptance for what each of us is and not some other arbitrary value another assumes we must be.

So for all affected by an intersex condition searching for a personal self acceptance as a man or a woman if perfectly ok. And for those who feel they are best being both, then good for them. it is their right to do so, but no other person has a right to assume any of us must be something they think we are. Only we have the right to chose for ourselves what we are.

[Laura Robison]

Thanks, John, for your acceptance and nice thoughts. I wish all of society were as accepting as you. I have to agree with Kailana though. We all have a different acceptance of ourselves, and sometimes, but not always, it is as a male or a female, which can result in a need for surgery.

Unfortunately, doctors want to operate on those of us, and I think we are a minority actually, who have ambiguous genitalia, or genitalia which doesn't conform to the standards the doctors have established, and we are considered a medical and societal emergency that has to be "corrected". We are not given a choice to accept ourselves as we are, because the doctors perform surgeries on us and keep our condition hidden from us. I believe what needs to happen is the cosmetic surgeries should only happen when we say they should happen. I wish I could have been left in my natural state, and allowed to tell my parents what sex I was, and what surgery I wanted.

Laura

[Horus]

Thanks, John, for your acceptance and nice thoughts. I wish all of society were as accepting as you. I have to agree with Kailana though. We all have a different acceptance of ourselves, and sometimes, but not always, it is as a male or a female, which can result in a need for surgery.

Unfortunately, doctors want to operate on those of us, and I think we are a minority actually, who have ambiguous genitalia, or genitalia which doesn't conform to the standards the doctors have established, and we are considered a medical and societal emergency that has to be "corrected". We are not given a choice to accept ourselves as we are, because the doctors perform surgeries on us and keep our condition hidden from us. I believe what needs to happen is the cosmetic surgeries should only happen when we say they should happen. I wish I could have been left in my natural state, and allowed to tell my parents what sex I was, and what surgery I wanted.

Laura

I totally agree with everything you say here, Laura. Everyone has a different acceptance of themselves, and whether Intersex people have surgery or not is entirely up to them and on how they deeply feel about themselves as they are. That's the whole point: It should be THEIR decision only, and not that of some doctor or parent or whoever!
Yes, you should have been allowed to remain in your original, natural state, so that then you could decide for yourself which sex you are and which surgery to have, if any.