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Betsy
01-27-05, 07:24 PM
I pulled this response off a list-serv that physicians frequent and often share case studies. The original poster was discussing an XY boy with micropenis (cause yet to be determined) and inquired of his colleagues about sex reassignment surgery.

None of the responses recommened doing surgery (in fact, their silence on it was revealing) however, one brave doctor from a major children's hospital had this to say:

His testes have clearly produced AMH at some point (no Mullerian structures
seen) and enough androgen effect to cause at least partial virilization
(enough to fuse the scrotum). What is our basis for thinking that he will
not respond to exogenous testosterone with increase in the size of the
phallus? How severe is the hypospadias? Is it severe enough for the surgeon
to believe adequate repair is impossible?
Shouldn't we make sure the structures are really androgen insensitive before
we proceed?
If some surgical repair is possible (maybe after testosterone
administration) then female sex assignment may no longer be an issue?
After reassignment, he will be converted from a (probably) non-functional
male to a non-functional female (certainly infertile, very likely to have
significant sexual dysfunction) who may have a "male brain" (genetically,
chromosomally and at least partially hormonally male till this point). What
if he grows up and wants to be male?
There is an underlying assumption here that if a male doesn't look 100%
male, he is much worse off than a male who has been surgically (crudely)
turned into a female. Is this assumption justified? And couldn't this
decision be taken later in childhood?
Being ambiguously male may be very distressing for him, but how can we be
sure that making him female is not even more distressing? The ambiguity is
the work of God, but the surgical reassignment would be the work of
(potentially liable) humans!


This was refreshing to read...

Betsy

Jay
01-28-05, 02:51 AM
Thank you Betsy--this is refreshing. I haven't been able to put it into words, but when he says something along the lines of "why not leave him as a male, because either way he'll be infertile, and leaving him be is the lesser of two evils". to paraphrase, of course, but it is true. why mess with one's genitals, only to realize that doing nothing is actually better than doing something. thankfully, and i still don't truly know why, i was left male. i developed a male physique and a male mentality. is this because the doctor believed the aforementioned statement? i hope so, honestly, that he purposely left me alone. i would love to believe that, and hope that he had intent in leaving me be, after seeing that i could function properly. i hope he didn't just say, "we don't want to spend money on surgery, discharge him", but that he saw that i could grow up as a boy, even with a micropenis, and that surgery to be a girl would be even worse for me.

Betsy
01-28-05, 11:20 AM
There's more...ssadly, the doctor who posted originally is still leaning towards surgery ti appears because (his words) "Our surgeons are not confident about reconstructing male phenotype." This indicates simpy that the medical group believes genitals determine gender and a boy needs a fully functioning, large penis to be a man which as we know is BS.

However, another one posted this:

I would definitely NOT assign a female sex. Has the baby been given
> testosterone injections to see if responds? Literature indicates that
> babies with testicles
> and a penis even small will choose a male gender and have been known as
> adults to try to switch to male if assigned female. I think you may have
> some sense of his gender identity once he can be up and playing. DON"T DO
> ANY IRREVERSIBLE PROCEDURES>Sex reassignment is very rarely done now.
>

Betsy

Dana Gold
01-28-05, 12:36 PM
These infants were given testosterone suppositiories....as a cautionary note; the link shows infants' genitals (before and after photos):

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/12/4905

Sofie
01-28-05, 05:03 PM
These infants were given testosterone suppositiories....

Nurture vs. Nature, second edition? :confused3
Some doctors seem to be prepared to do anything to get mentioned in a medical journal.

Sofie
02-05-05, 04:14 PM
Testosterone (Oxandrolone, 2-oxa-17-alphamethyle-testestorone) is also given to girls with turner-syndrome to promote growth, also there is no proof it works. The side-effects are excess body hair, deepening of the voice and enlargement of the clitoris among others.

Has the baby been given testosterone injections to see if responds? Literature indicates that babies with testicles and a penis even small will choose a male gender and have been known as adults to try to switch to male if assigned female
So? The opposite sure happens as well.

Sof