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Morgan
05-08-05, 09:33 AM
Okay, so I've been trying to put a brave face on things, but I am such a mess. I've mentioned some of this in a previous post but writing about it in more detail is helping me a little...

I had surgery in December 2003 to reduce gynaecomastia associated with hypogonadism, diagnosed the year before. Usually, gynaecomastia seems to be a little thing, with a tiny incision. For the typical adolescent who goes through the surgery, this might be true. But I was 37 and quite a lot bigger.

A mammogram test result said "prominent gynaecomastia, benign findings".
An oncology-specialist breast surgeon who I was mistakenly referred to said "that's not gynaecomastia, those are breasts, a B or possibly a C cup". He referred me to a plastic surgeon.
Both plastic surgeons that I've seen have said my condition was "severe".
... well, at the point at which I sought surgery, I was still growing. I'm not overweight, so it was very obvious without some form of compression. I was beginning to be concerned about where things might lead (my mother is much bigger, a [UK size] FF), and my partner hated it. He was also the one who made me seek the original diagnosis.

What really clinched the decision was advice that I had from two urologists to have an orchidectomy - due to atrophy, pain and future risk. I got a second opinion before consenting... Are intra-abdominal testes always removed?
Anyway, it felt like this was going to end my relationship if I didn't do something about the gynaecomastia. I was moving too far from "normal male".

So, I believed that I'd agreed a ~50% size reduction with the plastic surgeon. I didn't want to change who I am. I actually put this in writing, and got a written acknowledgement from the surgeon.

He performed a "Benelli" reduction - with scars all around the edge of each areola. Taking the dressings off after the surgery, he proudly told me that he "aggressively removed the glandular tissue". 350g of it, a little more than the volume of a coke can. The bill described the surgery as a mastectomy.

To my eyes, I had huge flat areolas, but flabby and saggy below. The surgeon hadn't done what was agreed, and I'm still not sure if it was forgetfulness or disbelief. He pretty much aimed for a typical "male" result. I've been in counselling regularly since.

Within a week (a very difficult week) I was booked in for a follow up surgery, at no cost to me, to improve the appearance of what was left. This surgery did improve things, a little, but I now have vertical scars beneath the areola. Around 22cm of scars in total. I also have a "dog ear" on one side and a "sling" on the other, both the result of surplus skin.

Fast forward a year, and my partner of 6.5 years ends the relationship. A combination of guilt and a feeling that I'll never be normal. He joined a gay rugby football team a few months beforehand. Go figure...

So, I've no partner, no nipple sensitivity, no libido, and I no longer feel like myself, let alone fit a physical description of a normal male.

I don't actually care about being a "normal male" - I'm not sure that ever did, except that I cared about the feelings of people close to me. I care about trying to feel comfortable in my own skin. It's taken me a long time to get ok about feeling this way, and to stop apologising for being different.

And I suppose I'm still angry about the breast surgery. Doctors, it seems, have a hard time understanding patients who don't expect to fit the norm. I find it very difficult to talk with my ex at all, and I'm being very lax with the testosterone replacement treatment.

In some ways, I'm still surprised about _which_ of the surgeries has really got to me. I suppose, as Dana has written in one of her posts, it's possible to differentiate medically necessary surgery from a cosmetic, socially-necessary one.

Some discussions with my counsellor led me, indirectly, here. A couple of you have been very welcoming, and I thank you for that :) I could do with it, and I hope that I can reciprocate.

M

Betsy
05-08-05, 10:29 AM
Morgan,

I'm saddened to read your post. So much of what is normal is dependent on what others define it for--for us. I don't think that is necessarily an intersex/non-intersex thing but it simply just is for everyone as we tend to be judged not only by ourselves but by those others as well.

Betsy

Peter
05-08-05, 05:20 PM
Hi Morgan,

Thanks for your thoughtful post. I appreciate that you are willing to discuss your issues of gynaecomastia at length. One issue that interests me is the pressures that you felt to be "normal". I know from discussions with others, that guys having large breasts are threatening to others in their surrounding environment. They are often spoken to rudely, spit on, and physically threatened. You might be the sanest person on your block, but the intolerance of others can exert enormous social and psychological pressures. So, part of me is curious to know if you underwent the breast reduction because of peer pressure, or for other reasons? In the back of my mind, I am thinking that you underwent the surgery for reasons of self-protection, and that if the world around you was more tolerant, you might not have undergone the surgery.

I have spent much of my life worrying about questions of being "normal". This morning, I was at an educational workshop, and someone in the audience asked a question about how to decide which parent would be the appropriate "role-model" for an intersex child. (It was a psychology class.) I said that all children generally use both parents as role models. I recommended that therapists discard their notions of appropriate role models, and simply speak openly and honestly with their intersex clients. The audiance was generally great, and I believe that they really wanted to learn about intersex issues. It's just that certain questions push my buttons. The more I get a better understanding of the concept of "normal", the more I realize that it is an ideological construct that artificially limits the human potential of people who are viewed by others as not being "normal".

Peter

Morgan
05-09-05, 05:07 AM
Hi Peter and Betsy

Thanks for both your replies.

I have spent much of my life worrying about questions of being "normal".
Me too.

I'm glad to say that I've never really felt physically threatened, although I have been ignored and stared at. I was (still am) very careful with what I wear. Before the surgery, I normally wore something that compressed my chest so that it wasn't obvious. This was for self protection.

On the issue of normality, I guess that in many people's eyes, I'll never be "normal" anyway: I'm gay, regardless of the other (and very separate) issues that led to the surgeries. My ex partner is very much a man, as well as being gay... I've been insulted and shouted at for this...

Physically, I don't look much like a normal man, even after the breast surgery. I do still have smaller but "persistent gynaecomastia" according to my last medical report, as well as scarring that is standard for a mastectomy or breast reduction surgery on a woman, not a man (the extent of it and the vertical scars from the revision). And it's not just my chest that is, er, atypical. My muscle and fat distributions have more in common with my mother than my father. The karyotype test was done for a reason. At least I also look a lot younger than I am.

The breast surgery outcome seems to be an acknowledged mistake - the surgeon realised the problem and has tried to make up for it. But I still have to live with the irreversible results.

Emotionally, I don't really feel "normal" either. A typical guy would probably find an orchidectomy far more damaging than a breast reduction. What I found damaging was the "need" to go through the breast surgery to deal with pressure from people close to me. Who I loved.

If I could undo the breast surgery, I would. And I no longer give a damn that this makes me different. Most, if not all, of the doctors and the few counsellors that I've seen since have all said that "what is normal for me" about my body is "whatever feels right to me". But trying to actually live this out in a fulfilling way is extremely difficult.

I'd agree that normality is a limiting notion. I've generally been able to live and work in fairly diverse, progressive environments. I would say lucky, but I've also had a couple of extended periods of unemployment which were hellish... it's a matter of self protection.

In the recent past, I've lived in Ireland and Australia, major cities in both countries (btw, the surgeries took place in Australia). Ireland is traditional, but modernising. Australia is more conservative than traditional, but with a fair degree of liberalism, too. Neither Dublin nor Sydney demand conformity as much as the US seems to right now.

Maybe that's not a fair comparison, but I read stuff about what's happening in the States at the moment and it kind of scares me. In Ireland, contraception, divorce and homosexuality have only become legal in the last 12 years or so - the very recent past. 30 years ago, women who worked for the public sector had to give up their job when they got marrried. People remember what the place was like when it was governed in accordance with strict religious values, and so most religious people have learnt a degree of humility, rather than the militancy that seems more common among US fundamentalists.

all the best

Morgan

Morgan
05-09-05, 03:27 PM
This evening I'm feeling a degree of irony in identifying as a gay man when I clearly wasn't man enough for my ex partner :/

Sofie
05-09-05, 06:53 PM
Hi Morgan

Maybe our inner beauty is sometimes overvalued, but it would be really sad, if all that matters is the way we look. All this pressure to perform and to conform to some (often arbitrary) standard makes people do and say things which they often regret later on.
Not feeling normal emotionally isn't scary, when you can share your emotions with a person you trust.

Sofie

cute dog btw