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Minnesota legislation drops medicaid for gender reassigment
The following is an email exchange I had today:
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Double Edged Sword
Thank you for pointing out that laws and legislation can be a double edged sword, drawing blood from many who may stand near. It becomes scary to think to hand that power to uneducated knaves who could in turn wield that sword to justify and further their self interests.
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I'm not at liberty to share the replies to the listserv I participate in and where I posted the original note as it is a private list open by invitation only and each member agrees not to forward emails off list---the one I posted came off list so it was okay to share without identifying information included. The person who sent it to me is very well-intentioned and someone I respect. I think he just didn't realize the ramifications of he new law in his joy.
It appears (at this time based upon correspondance) that those who sought the anti-circ legislation were caught unaware on the inclusion of gender reassignment surgery (or so they say). One reply was a bit troublesome in that it implied collatoral damage was okay as long as medicaid stopped funding newborn circumcisions. To that poster's credit though, suggestions such as writing letters to the editor of the MN papers were put forth and it is something I will endeavor this week and I encourage others to do so as well. I fear however that a rift could occur in some natural alliances (intersex/trans, interses/anti-circ, trans/anti-circ) by mere association with this being included in what is otherwise a good and well intentioned piece of legislation. That occurring is not a good thing as we really do need eachother in our fights for equal and fair rights. Betsy
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The anti-circumcision law is very poorly written. The law is dangerous in that it mixes medicine and religion in ways that are disturbing. It says that state funding for circumcision will be denied, except in the cases where circumcision is medically necessary, or "necessary or required because of a well-established religious practice." This language is a human rights nightmare that holds that religion comes before the human rights of the child. In my mind, it amounts to state funding of a religious practice as the law provides for state funding of medical treatments deemed religiously necessary. Secular parents seeking circumcision will be at a disadvantage measured against some religious parents. I am sure that secular parents will be quick to challenge the constitutionality of the law. No steps forward, and perhaps many steps backwards. One may be deeply opposed to circumcision. But it is important to frame arguments in terms of strengthening patient informed consent requirements as a human rights issue. Otherwise, you get monsters like this law that can be harmful to many people on many levels.
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who pays the price for progress?
There is a movement in the USA (supported by prominent conservative-minded physicians and psychiatrists) that call for a halt to “transsexual” surgeries. There are able to further this cause by inclusion of anti-gender re-assignment laws into heretofore activist causes…..seemingly providing social justice, but with a “price tag” that the original “supporters and promoters” do not have to “pay for”. I do not blame the any activist movements in and by themselves; rather the persons (like in below links) that take advantage of and twist the laws to their advantage and “conservative, moralized” social agenda....as well as any activists who sacrifice a particular member of the so-called GLBTI whatever ......as an example: ENDA establishing anti-discrimination for GLB at the expense of T a few years ago.....and this quote by Betsy:
One reply was a bit troublesome in that it implied collatoral damage was okay as long as medicaid stopped funding newborn circumcisions. collateral damage????? to whom.......... Excerts from the link below In the December 2000 Atlantic Monthly, University of Minnesota bioethicist Carl Elliott notes that "clinicians and patients alike often suggest that apotemnophilia is like gender-identity disorder and that amputation is like sex-reassignment surgery." This has the effect of undermining the uniqueness of sex-change surgery and challenging the social value attributed to it. Here's an interesting argument from Paul McHugh, director of psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins University medical school: A patient feeling that he is a woman trapped in a man's body is not obviously different from an anorexic woman feeling that she is drastically overweight. In 1992, writing on sex-change operations in the American Scholar, he said: "We don't do liposuction on anorexics. Why amputate the genitals of these poor men? Surely the fault is in the mind, not the member." In the late 1970s, McHugh halted sex-change operations at Hopkins, calling them "perhaps, with the exception of frontal lobotomy, the most radical therapy ever encouraged by 20th-century psychiatrists." McHugh is currently on the President’s Council on Bio-ethics, along with other like-minded individuals. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/leo030501.asp Excerpts from the link below. The promotion of "sex changes," and the normalizing of severe gender-identity disorders by radical feminists, pro-same-sex-attraction-disorder activists, and sexual revolutionaries is part of their larger agenda--namely, the destablization of the categories of sex and gender. Welcome to the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) -- a non-profit, educational organization dedicated to affirming a complementary, male-female model of gender and sexuality. NARTH, founded in 1992, is composed of psychiatrists, psychoanalytically informed psychologists, certified social workers, and other behavioral scientists, as well as laymen in fields such as law, religion, and education. http://www.narth.com/index.html My own thoughts and feelings about the "rift" between allies: GLBT/I can exist as an alliance against the homo/trans/intersex- phobic medical/social/psychological aspects of this society; but I feel it is hardly a homogenous union (in terms of "understanding" each other)....and it is a thwart to the "alliance" and a slap-in-the face (to any individuals or group) when one starts making "expert" comments about the other; "borrowing and cutting/pasting" the uniqueness of one to establish the legitimacy of the "borrower", pushing laws to benefit one at the expense of the other, or denying the legitimacy of the reality of one because the originator has a "problem" with it.(some gays do not like/accept TS people)...the acronym should be more like this : G-L-B-/-(T)-/-(I)......collateral damage, indeed... ![]() Last edited by Dana Gold : 07-19-05 at 12:54 PM. |
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I've been assured by the folks who worked towards the defunding of MGM that at no time was intersex, transsex, gender reassignment funding, etc. ever brought to the table. It appears that this part was inserted into the budget bill (it's a big bill and there is lots in there which is not germane to the discussion) by some stupid MN lawmaker.
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To me, it's a troublesome goal. Religious exemptions aside (I understand that part will be challenged, most likely through court action), I can't help but to think about how the LGB community sought exclusionary employment anti-discrimination legislation because it would be easier to see passage than to include gender in it. Thankfully, ENDA eventually did become GENDA and I do hope that eventually the MGM movement will become more inclusive to protect the rights of all children, not just a few and not on the shoulders of any other segment of our population. Betsy
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I think that the anti-circ movement may have been used on this issue by some conservative lawmakers who want to end SRS and related treatments, and put the responsibility for ending it on the anti-circ movement. At this point there is no evidence that I have seen that the anti-circ movement was aware of the anti-SRS and related treatments aspects of the funding bill.
The anti-circ parts of the legislation are so poorly written that I believe that it would be fairly easy to get a judge to issue an injunction preventing the implementation of the anti-circ parts of the legislation. The language is so flawed that I believe that there is no chance of it surviving a constitutional challenge. But perhaps this was the intent of the authors of the legislation. Perhaps all they wanted to do was divide and conquer people to further a conservative agenda. My fear is that only the anti-SRS and related treatments aspects of the legislation will survive intact. I believe that we need to discuss how anti-circ people and intersex people can co-operate. I believe that we should consider age factors in possible future anti-circ legislation. For instance, if a law was written that stated that no medically unnecessary infant genital surgeries, including circumcision, should be funded for children under the age of five, what position would we take on such proposed legislation? I believe that Betsy is correct that there are many instances where intersex people should have public funding for voluntary medical treatments, but these cases seem to fall at an older age, where issues of informed consent come more clearly into focus. I can see instances, where if the law was carefully written, that I would support removing public funding for IGM surgeries. Peter Last edited by Peter : 07-19-05 at 02:07 PM. |
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Below is an email from the list I referenced above and is here with permission of the writer. It appears that the clause we are concerned about is not related to the MGM folks and is just an unfortunate result of the way the bill/law was written and any illusions of consanquinity are purely coincidental. I'm considering the matter closed on the issue of MGM/SRS collusion yet am open towards hearing opinions on how the MGM and IGM communities could work more closely.
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