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Old 01-17-09, 08:09 AM
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Jan 15 National Sanctity of Human Life Day

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National Sanctity of Human Life Day, 2009
A Proclamation by the President of the United States of America

All human life is a gift from our Creator that is sacred, unique, and worthy of protection. On National Sanctity of Human Life Day, our country recognizes that each person, including every person waiting to be born, has a special place and purpose in this world. We also underscore our dedication to heeding this message of conscience by speaking up for the weak and voiceless among us.
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The sanctity of life is written in the hearts of all men and women. On this day and throughout the year, we aspire to build a society in which every child is welcome in life and protected in law. We also encourage more of our fellow Americans to join our just and noble cause. History tells us that with a cause rooted in our deepest principles and appealing to the best instincts of our citizens, we will prevail.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0090115-1.html

not sure how many people caught this statement by President Bush. I was just kind of wondering what other people thought of it.

I am also wondering if this would be better off in "In The News" threads. Anyways, I kind of like the Statements made, but wish someone with some clout had the courage to make a similar statement for the Intersexed people who are also human beings and also have a natural born right to our own bodies, a natural God given right to be what we are, and the right to be protected from unwanted surgery or the right to surgery to fix what has allready been done against our wishes, or without our consent or something like that.

Anyone have any thoughts?
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Old 01-17-09, 08:15 AM
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Jan 18 National Sanctity of Human Life Day

sorry a small typo, on the original post, but for some reason my computer just hangs when i try to edit the post.
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The insidious Mr. B.

It just means that he does not want any fertilized human zygote to perish.

(I'd love to give him all the ones that nobody wants or can afford. They do eventually get pretty expensive to keep.)

Mary Jo Kopechni should be required to live in a vegetative state forever. That's the sort of thing that he means.

It sounds nice. But it is insidious.
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The insidious Mr. B.

It just means that he does not want any fertilized human zygote to perish.

(I'd love to give him all the ones that nobody wants or can afford. They do eventually get pretty expensive to keep.)

That a brain-dead person should be kept on life-support in a vegetative state forever. That's the sort of thing that he means.

It sounds nice. But it is insidious.
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well, the first thing I would like to see is for him to try extending this principle beyond medical procedures. For example, what would an approach to the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict look like if its main guiding principle was the sanctity of human life?

But also, in medicine, I don't think preservation of life should be prioritised above quality of life. Efforts to save people's lives need to be balanced with treatments to make those people's quality of life sufficiently good that saving their lives was worth doing.

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I agree

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well, the first thing I would like to see is for him to try extending this principle beyond medical procedures.

But also, in medicine, I don't think preservation of life should be prioritised above quality of life. Efforts to save people's lives need to be balanced with treatments to make those people's quality of life sufficiently good that saving their lives was worth doing.

cheers,
Caroline
thought you had a good point to make Caroline, the quality of life issue, is a touchy subject. In my mind, opinion or whatever you want to call it, I believe there are too many alterior motives that influence medical/surgical decisions. Anything from Religion, family dynamics, social acceptance, self acceptance, all these things can be altered by decisions made by a medical community that is still using older, out dated standards that so far have only been repeatedly proven to cause a great deal of harm to a whole lot of people.

I really just thought the statement's made though by m, our US former President does have some valid sentements with regard to human life being a god given right. I would just like to say that we also have a god given right to know what we are, and what has been done, because in many cases it is the surgical procedures we have been repeatedly subjected too, that is interfering with our quality of life. The medical professions, surgical, and psychological needs to do better for those like us. We have just as much right over our own bodies as they do over theirs, and their decisions on how we are treated should not be based on what they think is best for us, but should be based on what we think is best for us.

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