Doc cut short my sex life, suit sez

[Betsy]

You will need to excuse me for laughing on this one...


http://nydailynews.com/front/story/295106p-252585c.html

New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
Doc cut short my sex life, suit sez
BY ADAM NICHOLS
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, March 31st, 2005

A Madison Ave. surgeon left a patient virtually impotent after operating to lengthen his manhood, a lawsuit claims.
Eric Neuberger, 31, contends his pre-op libido let him "engage in intercourse approximately 30 to 50 times a month."

But his sexual appetite was destroyed by Dr. Rodney Barron's work, Neuberger said.

Neuberger, a musician from Middletown, Orange County, paid $6,600 to The Barron Centers Medical Associates, which has offices on Madison Ave. and in Beverly Hills.

"It was more a confidence thing than a physical thing," he said in the lawsuit, filed in Manhattan Supreme Court.

"[My girlfriend said] that I didn't need to have it done, there was nothing wrong with me. I thought it would improve my confidence.

"[Barron] said the worst-case scenario was that I would have to come back for a followup surgery."

But Neuberger said he now manages to have sex only once a month and suffers from scarring and pain.

And he said he was not warned of the risks before the surgery, described by his lawyers as "unproved, unsafe, ineffective and experimental."

He is claiming unspecified damages for mental anguish that he argues forced him to drop out of school and somehow hurt his musical ability.

Barron countered in court papers that "Mr. Neuberger had injured himself during sex."

He refused to comment when contacted by the Daily News.

A trial date has yet to be set.

[Dana Gold]

I wonder if he had to "tote his" on the arm? :rolleyes2


Check out the video: "Dear Penis"......music cartoon video from the musician in the link below......Note: no "nasty stuff" shown


http://www.rodneycarrington.com/videos.php :happy68:

[Peter]

The guy may be a fool, but as an intersex person, I can relate to the claim by his lawyers that the procedure was "unproved, unsafe, ineffective and experimental." And that is on a day when his doctor was trying to enhance sexual function. What about days when doctors are trying to obliterate sexual ambiguity as in cases of infant genital surgery? I had better stop now, before I become really bitter....

Peter

[Betsy]

I was giggling at the absurdity of a man that sacrificed his sex life (and what sounds like a rather healthy one at that!) in the hopes of making it even better.

Your point about the doctors is right on---because the rationale behind it on the part of the physician thinking he can alter the genitals to make things better does seem ironic.

However, I know an adult that recently opted for some "lengthening surgery" and he says he is really happy with it and thus, to me it comes down to someone choosing to change their body by their own decision. I think it is a wonderful thing that we can opt in for those things when we are adults but I don't feel sorry for those who have less than expected results.

Betsy

[Peter]

I agree with you Betsy. I think that we live in a really bizarre world. I mean, before the surgery the man in the article had "intercourse approximately 30 to 50 times a month." Excuse me, but my understanding, not based upon personal experience, is that most people are happy to have sex 2 or 3 times a week. Did this man expect to have a greater frequency of sex after the surgery? It's like they were doing surgery on the energizer bunny to provide longer lasting batteries. It seems like a case of hubris to me.

Peter

[Dana Gold]

In this case, good ole' country common sense would say: "If it ain't broke, why fix it?"...he got greedy, that's all....a "victim" of his own self: sex addiction and penis fixation....leading to poor judgment in choosing ( erroneously ) a possibly unsound and totally unnecessary medical procedure.

:pizza:

[Peter]

Hey Dana, I agree that the man probably should have gotten better advice before undergoing the surgery. Here was a guy who was having regular sex with a satisfied partner according to the story. If he was unsatisfied, or lacking confidence, as the story puts it, I feel that the medical people involved with the case should have looked at psychological factors.

Common sense is often good with dealing with cars and the like, but I think that it often breaks down when dealing with people. For instance, the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" sounds good, until I remember that most people would believe that my being born with both a penis and a vagina is a "birth defect" or similar "broken" condition. This is part of the dark side of the medicalization of intersex. My genital scars are my stigmata. I believe that there are some "broken" things that should not be fixed, not that I was ever really "broken" in the first place. In addition, there are people who see what they think of as not "normal" as "broken". Usually they have been poorly educated about the real world by our school system. I am not saying that you hold these beliefs, but common sense often has a dangerous dark side. There is diversity in this world and being born different is ok. I am working on my own self-acceptence. As time passes, and I read more stories of intersex people here on the Bodies forum, I am becoming more self-accepting of my own difference.

Peter

[Dana Gold]

Yes, you are absolutely right when the term "broken" is alluded to be concurrent with "abnormal" by those who encounter intersex. But, my point, exactly: It ain't really broke....so leave it alone. However, you do know that some people who are born with ambiguous conditions have disagreed and were glad or at least accepting of the surgical measures.....and, of course, others not. My surgery did indeed fix something "not right", elsewise, I would not have been to urinate at all. The real issue is cosmetically-oriented surgery (and/or aggressive hormonal regimens) to "fix" ambiguous primary and secondary (reproductive) sex characteristics that are done to "erase" not really fix...when these conditions, in reality, may not represent, and/or develop into, actual health-compromising sequalae . And such "fixing" is done primarily for social ( "fit in" ) and perceived moral concerns (child becoming gay or trans) ...being done out of fear (even though they may deny it). So, again, why fix the child if it ain't really broke.....and the "kicker" is that when such surgeries are done to so-call fix.....they, in many cases, result in a child and adult with not just "broken" reproductive organ systems....but a shattered self-image with the usual shame/secrecy "Pandora's (tool) Box along with it all.

One more thing: Cosmetic surgery for adults who want "bigger and better whatevers" (when there is no real health problem) is a big business....there are unscrupulous doctors and pseudo-doctors, who rake in the big bucks, and could probably care less about the results......just as there are now many non-surgical "treatments" for bigger and/or better boobs, weenies (vaigara, "enhancers" etc) and faces (Botox)......and those aren't really broke, and may end up "broke" when "fixed"...that was my original point.

:pizza:

[Dana Gold]

Oh!....just read this article..... take note of the mentioned Dr.'s last name: :rolleye13

Penises bigger than thought
Friday, April 01, 2005
The average erect male penis size is much larger than previously thought - with 20 cm-long penises being standard for most men, researchers have found.
The study, involving more than 15 000 British men, is the first large-scale study to measure adult erect penis size. This latest research debunks the common belief that average male penises range in size from 14 to 16 cm - a theory that has never been scientifically proven. Until now, research has been based largely on either anecdotal evidence or samples that were not statistically significant.
Researchers from the University of Manchester analysed data from more than 15 000 men between the ages of 18 and 35 who were being treated at various hospitals in the Manchester district for medical conditions involving the male genitals.
Surprising results
"We were surprised to find that most erect penises were between 18 and 22 cm long," said Dr Alan Prepuce of the Faculty of Medical Sciences, University of Manchester.
"However, it's important to note that penis size has no direct relationship to either the ability to reproduce or give sexual satisfaction," Prepuce said in an accompanying editorial.
The results were published in the 1 April issue of Male Reproduction. - (Health24)

http://www.health24.com/news/Other/1-934,31319.asp

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=prepuce&x=14&y=17

D*mn! I best be slowin' down mah postin', elsewise I won't have any more hogs left in the barn or greens in the garden to pay my "dues"...and ain’t noone gonna git mah ‘wacky tabacky”! :happy68:
see (prince…ss's post)

http://www.bodieslikeours.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1233

:wink_smil :rolleye11

[Betsy]

Ahhhh...best to take note of the date on the article as well :happy45:

[Dana Gold]

I forgot!! :confused6 :redface: .today is April Fool's!!...and I thought you was half-serious 'bout them "dues"........heh, heh, I guess that means this ole' gal kin keep her hogs and greens....or no? :interesti ...h*ll, I best be layin' off thet wacky tabacky....cain't see the difference 'tween a joke and real stuff anymore.... :interesti