Julie Greenberg, Cannot work out what she is saying

[Sophie338]

Hi All :happydanc :wavey:

I just came across this.

Opinions?



http://www.tjsl.edu/index.cfm?sID_int=43&rID_int=4&xID=16


Julie Greenberg, Associate Dean & Professor of Law

J.D., University of Michigan, cum laude
B.A., University of Michigan, cum laude

Associate Dean Greenberg is a nationally recognized expert on the
legal issues relating to gender, sex, sexual identity and sexual
orientation. Her path-breaking work on gender identity has been cited
by a number of state and federal courts, as well as courts in other
countries, and has been quoted in more than 75 books and articles. She
has been invited to speak at dozens of national and international
conferences on the subject and is chair of the ABA International
Sub-Committee on Issues Relating to Sex, Gender and Sexual
Orientation. She joined the Thomas Jefferson faculty in 1990 and
became the Associate Dean for Faculty Development in 2003. She serves
on a number of nonprofit organizations' boards of directors and has
also been involved in a variety of community service projects relating
to domestic violence and other women's issues.

Recent Scholarship

International Developments in the Medical Management of Intersexuality
and Informed Consent, in ETHICS AND INTERSEX (Sharon Systma ed.,
Kluwer Law International, forthcoming 2005)

An Interdisciplinary and Cross-Cultural Analysis of Binary Sex
Categories, in TRANSGENDER RIGHTS: HISTORY, POLITICS, AND LAW (Paisley
Currah & Shannon Minter, eds., Univ. of Minnesota Press, forthcoming 2005)

When Is a Same-Sex Marriage Legal? Full Faith and Credit and Sex
Determination, 38 CREIGHTON L. REV. 289 (2005)

Because of Sex, SAN DIEGO LAWYER, 50 (Nov./Dec. 2004)

Gender Nonconformity: A Comprehensive Theoretical Approach to Break
Down the Maternal Wall and End Discrimination Against Gender Benders –
Commentary on Keynote Speaker Joan Williams's "Beyond the Glass
Ceiling," 26 T. JEFFERSON L. REV. 37 (2003)

Legal Aspects of Gender Assignment, 13 ENDOCRINOLOGIST 276 (2003)

Definitional Dilemmas: Male or Female? Black or White? The Law's
Failure to Recognize Intersexuals and Multiracials (ch. 5), in GENDER
NONCONFORMITY , RACE, AND SEXUALITY: CHARTING THE CONNECTIONS 102
(Toni Lester, ed., Madison: Wisconsin Univ. Press, 2002)

What Do Scalia and Thomas Really Think About Sex? Title VII and Gender
Nonconformity Discrimination: Protection for Transsexuals,
Intersexuals, Gays, and Lesbians, 24 T. JEFFERSON L. REV. 149 (2002)

Deconstructing Binary Race and Sex Categories: A Comparison of the
Multiracial and Transgendered Experience, 39 SAN DIEGO L. REV. 919 (2002)

When Is a Man a Man and When Is a Woman a Woman?, 52 FLA. L. REV. 745
(2000)

Defining Male and Female: Intersexuality and the Collision Between Law
and Biology, 41 ARIZ. L. REV. 266 (1999)

Reconceptualizing Preconception Torts, 64 TENN. L. REV. 315 (1997)

Other Scholarship

Download a list of Professor Greenberg's older works.

Subjects include: Business Associations, Corporations, Sexuality,
Gender & the Law, Women & the Law

Ext: 6931
Email: julieg@<hidden>

shalom

Sophie

(PS the site gets better everytime I visit Betsy Wonderful stuff :happydanc )

[Betsy]

I'm not sure what your question is, Sophie.

Julie gave the keynote at our intersex symposium over the winter.

She maintains that rather than a full moratorium on surgeries, it should be changed to make them more difficult to obtain through a better system of informed consent.

Betsy

[Peter]

Hi Sophie,

It's hard to say what positions Professor Greenberg takes from reading her resume, except to say that she has written extensively on sex, gender, and the law. I understand that she works hard on improving the legal situation of many people. The title of your post seems to indicate that you disagree with some of the postions that she has taken in the past. If you have read her scholarship and it brings up important issues for you, then I would certainly be interested in hearing what you have to say about the issues. I noticed that Professor Greenberg's resume has an email address, so perhaps you can contact her with your concerns as a scientific researcher and intersex person.

Peter

[Sophie338]

hi Betsy :-) hi Peter :-)

It is hard to say that I dissagree with her, she is very postive (being against surgery) but presents us in terms of "Management" and "Sexual". Milton Diamond has a habit of doing that as well, Though with him it would be an excellent treatise on a given condition and then the worst refferences you could imagine. (On 5aRD he wrote very well, but then ended with "Raise as Male, see Mc Ginley").

I wouldnt say I am angry, more that I end up with mixed feelings, I never seem able to see acedemics in a consistent light, I am just wondering if this total agreement and then total disagreement is a common thing.

I certainly do not feel angry with Prof. Greenberg, Certainly not the way I would about Glassberg for example, I just read some excellent points with little stingers in the text.

Example (This is part of a paper's title from what I gather)

Gender Nonconformity: A Comprehensive Theoretical Approach to Break
Down the Maternal Wall and End Discrimination Against Gender Benders –

"Gender Benders"? That is one hell of a term of derision.

The transgender thing is another one, I dont see myself as transgendered.

It is not so much the language as some sense that some people show incredible and precise insights into various issues and then just ruin it with a comment that can be read as being the very opposite (And sadly is by religious fundies, who would seize on "Gender benders" when trying to oppose people seeking human rights.)

I am not sure if it is me being over sensitive There is no doubt whatsoever that Greenberg is doing a lot of good, I just cannot grasp the approach or understand it.

sorry for being vague, I just seem to lose my balnace a little when reading even the simplest commentaries (Such as a list of someone's papers)

Shalom

Sophie

[Sophie338]

ah apologies, I didnt spot the Email adress at the foot of the page, Someone sent it to me in an email and asked for my opinion, which I felt unable to give, (Given the above explanation) I just cut and pasted it without realising, sorry

Shalom

Sophie