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rebis
08-15-05, 12:56 PM
While I bide my remaining time on the East Coast before returning to my West Coast hometown, I've decided to do some extensive journaling of my questions/issues/feelings regarding my situation with my Gender Indentity and how it relates to other self-image/sexuality questions.

This is something of a snippet from that process that I would curious to hear feedback on, to see if my feelings or confusions are/were shared by others.

I recently had a vivid memory of my first year of High School, which would be 4 years before my body would even begin to undergo puberty, spending my time finding new and different ways to avoid undressing for Gym glass (lest someone see my body and make fun of me) and wondering why I was so different from other guys my age who were obsessed with sex.

I even thought at one point that my lack of libido meant that I might be gay (which was an identity crisis panic attack for a sheltered, naive white kid growing up in a rich suburb).

I remember, later on, ignorantly thinking "I would rather be gay and live with the social hazing by my peers than be this confused and have no idea what I am, who I am, or who I want to be."

I realized, later on, that I ended up burying that whole conflict I was experiencing under a series of relationships with girls while in college. I was pubescent. I had a small but at least noticeable sex drive. And at that point, my lifelong pattern of developing crushes on girls now included enough 'mature sexual energy' that I was able to experience sexual intimacy, albeit later in the game than most people.

Now, in the tail end of my thirties following a divorce and an intimacy trackrecord that only includes 5 partners, that tabled confusion and uncertainty is back with a vengence.

I feel very much like I'm caught in the crossfire of a gender identity and sexual orientation complexity that leaves me with some tough hurdles to overcome.

I have always, looking back, felt like I had a very blended sense of gender.

Well, okay, that's false. I honestly feel like I have never had a distinct gender of any kind.

Being told you are a boy and feeling like a boy are, as it turns out, two very separate things. And my personal history helped me to understand how our bodies can either reinforce or erode our 'biologically suggested' sense of gender.

Prior to the age of normal pubescence, I was just a happy-go-lucky kid. Granted, I spent as much if not more time playing with girls than boys at that point (I just felt very comfortable playing, talking and hanging around girls my age while boys would run away or avoid or mock girls). I would have told you that I felt like a boy at that point, because my only sense of what that might have meant was that I had a boy's body (meaning I had a penis), a boy's name and my parents told me I was a boy.

When I hit 10 or 11, everything turned upside down. I had never had any extra body weight up until then, but that all changed. I began to gain weight disproportionate to my body and I began developing breast tissue. My energy levels decreased, I became less active and a lot more passive and quiet. Being both obese (which masks your body in curves and shapes that are not masculine) and in possession of breasts (a definite female characteristic) while not acquiring any male pubescent traits threw me into a very isolated world of "girls, boys, and then me" kind of place (although I wouldn't have been able to see it that clearly at age 11-13).

My obesity and gynecomastia have followed me ever since, and even though I did develop male pubescent traits (I was 5'6" and 245 my junior year in high school, and 6'3" and 300 by my junior year in college), I had never felt any kind of clarity in my sense of gender.

I have always been clear about my desire for and emotional feelings toward the opposite sex. I had crushes and little girlfriends as early as age 5, and have never had enough same-sex impulses to even qualify myself as 'bi-curious.'

Yet, the older I get, the more I realize that while I don't have the classic feelings of gender dysphoria (I am not actively or consistently upset or depressed by the contrast of my gender identity to my physical anatomy), if we lived in a world of magical reality I would probably choose to be a girl over a boy because I feel like I would be happier and better-suited to that sex, given my feelings and the character/shape of my sense of gender.

I also know, given my track record in relationships and my desires and attractions, that I am always drawn to women who express very masculine gender traits (aggressive over passive, competitive over supportive, demonstrative over emotive).

So ultimately, my 'coming out' and acceptance path includes accepting that I prefer to be treated and related to in the context of intimacy as a female gendered partner but within the realm of a heterosexual relationship. I also need admit the fact that I present as male-gendered and male-sexed to the world because I am not strongly enough conflicted by my gender vs. sex to seek an external solution to an internal complexity.

Where I go from here is a bit of a mystery to me, but I suppose knowing the road I've traveled may help me see the road ahead.

Thanks for listening,
Peter

Meadow
08-15-05, 04:49 PM
Peter,

While I cannot impart any great words of wisdom, I can reassure you that you are not alone in your feelings. And while most persons in the world gravitate to one end or the other, there are many others that are in the grey area inbetween as you express yourself. Time and reflection will either move you in one direction or the other, or it will allow you to be content to be exactly where you are. Just know that there is most likely someone out there who wants to be with a person just as yourself.

Morgan
08-15-05, 04:57 PM
Hi both

I find Meadow's words wise and nicely optimistic :) I would ask, Rebis, if it's necessary to put so many labels onto yourself?

M

rebis
08-15-05, 05:14 PM
Thanks, to both for you, for the replies.

As for your question, Morgan, I'm struggling with how to navigate the terrain I'm on without first understanding the landmarks and highways in between or around them. Which is why I'm falling back on some cookie-cutter terminology that isn't probably going to be very effective or helpful in the long run.

My happiest ideal is to sort out what I need, want and how to achieve it and then leave all the nominalizations and labels behind me. But until I have it all figured out, I'll probably have to hold onto a few of them so I can properly explain myself to myself, let alone anyone who would be helping me sort it out.

Meadow
08-15-05, 09:58 PM
Peter,

I understand very well the need early on to use labels, which can help one gain some perspective on where they are relative to the rest of the world. Its kinda like being a star. Every star is an individual, but it helps to know in which constellation one lies. That makes it easier to find in an unfamiliar night sky. But eventually, one does not need the other stars to find themselves. You just look up, and there you are!

You have done well in expressing your past. Those events may give you some clues about your future. What makes it interesting is to watch your future unfold.

prince....ss?
08-16-05, 01:04 AM
Welcome to my world. Most everything in your post mirrors my past experiences and feelings. With the exception of external appearance and the gender preferences…For example I have the outward appearance of a girl but as a child I hung out with the boys.

If you wish, you could search my past posts here at BLO and trace the road that I traveled to my self discovery. It was a rough road but I have good friends here that held my hand and guided me down a safe path.

It’s interesting to find someone that has the same issues and asked the same questions and traveled the same path.

As a quick intro I am 46xy reassigned to female at 11 days old. And after I discovered this fact it answered a lot of my questions about why I always questioned my sex, gender, lack of libido and really crappy relationships with men… I looked for a man that was more man that I acted… Hard to find a man secure with his man hood when I would out hunt, fish, and shoot then them. I would fix their car or truck and repair the house…and if they touched my power tools ….I threatened to use it on them… but they were all useless any way. ( I’m not man bashing…I just found some real loosers)

But they were my mistakes because I did not know who or what I was and that noise is in the past.

What I do know now it that although I have the body of a woman thanks to the multitude of doctors in my life, and I am legally a woman, female pronouns are used to address me, I am not a woman and I am not a man…I am neither and this works for me. Some might say I was both but not true. I would need to have some feelings of being a man and a woman to be that. But I don't

Once I realized the fact that I was neither, it is amazing how easy the whole gender and sex confusions fall to the way side. I am now just me and that is very cool. With all the pressures of gender and sex labeling gone, I can live my life as I choose and be with people that I choose…But if you saw me on the street and called me Miss. I would not make issue of that because I know who I am…That is most important.

Good luck on your journey…if you look down for a moment you will see other foot prints before you on this path you have taken.

Prince….ss?

rebis
08-16-05, 09:34 AM
Prince...ss,

Thanks so much for the reply, and I will definitely take you up on your offer and read you posts to see how you traveled down the road you're on.

I'm glad to know so many people who are 'figuring it all out.' :)

- Peter

batousai
08-18-05, 10:58 PM
Try Genderqueer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer)

Seriously but I have a few friends simular to you, one identify's as BiGendered (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigender), the other Gender Transient (BiGendered but with a low sense of gender identity (sorry couldn't find any links)). Both of these conditions are rare, but Its also worth pointing my BiGendred friend had a simular pubescent experience to you, so I feel It would be a good idea to look into this further.
But as everyone before has said avoid labels, and if you have to just say your highly queer, and smile misteriously ^_~



Jessica