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Old 07-08-07, 02:59 AM
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I'm tired of getting hurt

I was wondering if anyone else is super sensitive to hearing others discuss things?

like:
1. The advances in medicine allowing people who should of died live. Thus continue to weaken the human race as a species?

2. Listening to opinions that while not neccesarily having anything to do with them(me),or not really meant to be insults directed at them? Just things that are brought out in open discussions?

I am asking cause i recently went through a very bad weeK+ of depression all from comments spoken in a classroom discussion on good and bad aspects of technology that we live with today, that are grandparents didn't have.

Essentially i had a professor mention that there are many people living today that would of died at birth or shortly there after that are now strains on society. 1. there medical needs require vast amounts of money to keep them alive, depleting resources. 2. Because they are alive, there genetic mutations are being passed down too future generations. 3. Because medical technology has advanced enough to give these people a fairly normal life, there genetic defaults are weekening the human gene pool.

I really hope this doesnt hurt anyones feelings, I didn't mean for anything in this post to offend. I am just trying to find out if anyone else,like me, is really hurt when topics like this get mentioned.

I sat there in class my hand half raised, wanting to comment but afraid to do so. stairing at my professor, dropping my head to a blank note pad(was taking notes), occasionally looking up, only to hang my head again. Afraid, to talk, afraid to offer a rebutal(fear that i'd break out in sobs if i spoke), wiping tears away from my eyes. Only to walk out at the end of class feeling like a piece of garbage. its been nearly 2 weeks now, i havent gone back. I havent officially withdrawn from the summer quarter either. Right now im just barely getting over the depression that classroom discussion left me in.

I guess, what i am asking is. How does anyone else get over things like this?
How do you not let things like this from getting to you? I feel as though i have no armor to hide behind anymore. Me self confidence shatters easily, does anyone else feel that way?

I'd really appreciate some advice, i'm tired of feeling like a nobody.
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Old 07-08-07, 03:17 AM
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i have been hyper sensitive and as sensitive a s usual since the last 6 months off my -should be- monthly injections....

i cant explain now but i am happy to see a post atht i wil respond too with passion

i wish you well in your studies
i must go to bed ...its the next morning of a new day and i havent had the sleep from last night yet!!!!#
keep screaming but its not all that bad
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Old 07-08-07, 05:45 AM
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I think, for us, it is very easy to begin believing different = defective and that is awfully hard on a person's self-esteem. Most of us have had the experience of others pulling away when they learn of our differences and that rejection hurts.

I wish I had an easy answer, but I don't. You have to believe in your intrinsic value as a human being and the value of the gifts you bring with you, as part of your spirit. Your sense of worth needs to come from inside and that means recognizing what you have to offer to the world and to life.

Many of us needed some form of medical aid to stay alive and healthy but we are also very gifted individuals by virtue of our experience. So many IS people are extraordinarily understanding and compassionate. Many have a unique understanding of sex and gender. Personally I feel that the "drain" we put on the medical profession is small compared to what we contribute to humanity.

I would rather live in a community of IS folk than in "normal" society!
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Old 07-08-07, 12:34 PM
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Old 07-08-07, 02:14 PM
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Hi Kailana,

As I was born very premature with a club foot and severe hip hyperplasia, as well as ambiguous genitals, my parents could not afford the medical expenses of my care, and got help from the March of Dimes. I have never once felt guilty for being alive or for the expenses of my infant care.

The ethics of your professor are highly questionable. I think that it might be fair to question medical priorities, when an infant’s treatment might cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, when so many children lack even basic medical care. But to blame the children who get the best possible medical care for our survival because of our genetics or medical condition seems to me to be highly unethical.

If the behavior of your professor is emotionally harming you, and preventing you from completing your studies in a timely fashion, I would suggest filing a complaint with the school administration over the professor’s remarks. I don't think that you would have to reveal the specifics of your medical condition to let them know now the remarks of your professor have devastated you.

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Old 07-08-07, 09:43 PM
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I was wondering if anyone else is super sensitive to hearing others discuss things?

like:
1. The advances in medicine allowing people who should of died live. Thus continue to weaken the human race as a species?
the arguement that genetic"defects" in humans is a result of the human species being weakened is very debateable....and it remains to be seen whether the evolution or the pollution of the worlds newest sexes is a natural healthy way of getting rid of the typical macho xy male type(who is generally sexist, weak in heart but strong in body) and allowing humans to evolve into whatever GOD or creation intended OR whether its a big mess created by many of the worlds leading scientists who themselves messed with genes and genetic modifying behaviour first with dolly the sheep and subsequently regardless of how or why...now us humans either are or feel like we are cross bred in some way or another!
and to suggest that anyone....anyone at all should feel guilty for needing drugs or care that costs the taxpayer more money and ultimately it is a waste of time and money to be dealing with us types of people---anyone to suggest that should be examined immediately for their own little hidden faults and when we find their ailment we shall pronounce execution to them aswell as us,no human being is without "fault"
every human deserves free health care...without it...we create spirals of diseases and genetic mutations(scientific pollution)


2. Listening to opinions that while not neccesarily having anything to do with them(me),or not really meant to be insults directed at them? Just things that are brought out in open discussions?

I am asking cause i recently went through a very bad weeK+ of depression all from comments spoken in a classroom discussion on good and bad aspects of technology that we live with today, that are grandparents didn't have.

Essentially i had a professor mention that there are many people living today that would of died at birth or shortly there after that are now strains on society. 1. there medical needs require vast amounts of money to keep them alive, depleting resources. 2. Because they are alive, there genetic mutations are being passed down too future generations. 3. Because medical technology has advanced enough to give these people a fairly normal life, there genetic defaults are weekening the human gene pool.

this point is utterly as ignorant as i would expect from most medical practitioners.......they seem to believe that its there duty to put "mutants" right......i truly believe there has been an ongoing change in humans for quite some time...only true god lovers are the ones that will forever disagree(tho not all god worshippers are the same i recognise that)...i think the evolution of humans is so obvious ,its just that doctors have done so much chopping and sewing and covering up of the truth that we still think we are a minority......i doubt it!i really doubt it

I really hope this doesnt hurt anyones feelings, I didn't mean for anything in this post to offend. I am just trying to find out if anyone else,like me, is really hurt when topics like this get mentioned.

if you think that you maybe hurt peoples feelings...then what am i suposed to think???!!

but i have to say that if us the intersexed interested international party cannot talk about sensitive issues amongst eachother then we are a long way from a welcome home sign on the door for intersexed communities to be accepted finally into an existant extra categorisation......
i speak from the heart and as i said to xxytalk i cannot do what many do...i need tow rite from the heart...i mean well....as you should know!


I sat there in class my hand half raised, wanting to comment but afraid to do so. stairing at my professor, dropping my head to a blank note pad(was taking notes), occasionally looking up, only to hang my head again. Afraid, to talk, afraid to offer a rebutal(fear that i'd break out in sobs if i spoke), wiping tears away from my eyes. Only to walk out at the end of class feeling like a piece of garbage. its been nearly 2 weeks now, i havent gone back. I havent officially withdrawn from the summer quarter either. Right now im just barely getting over the depression that classroom discussion left me in.

I guess, what i am asking is. How does anyone else get over things like this?
How do you not let things like this from getting to you? I feel as though i have no armor to hide behind anymore. Me self confidence shatters easily, does anyone else feel that way?

hi!hi ...its easy to let your defence drop sometimes and then feel shattered......its hard to let defences drop and trust that nothing can affect us really that much anymore.........words will say nothing if there is no feeling behind it
if you are talking about the fact that whilst listening to this professor talk abozut people like you and me wasting finances....well of course then that would bring anyone down---the knowledge that some professor is getting paid or attention for talking such pure bull......wow...the gaul of some "professionals"....lol...


I'd really appreciate some advice, i'm tired of feeling like a nobody.

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Old 07-10-07, 05:40 PM
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Smile Kailana my dear,

Kailana,tis lisa I never felt you being as sad as you sound in this post,I think of you as my new friend to be,please call me anytime you wish to talk as i sleep with the phone next to my bed as to get ANY important calls I mit other wise miss,And more importante if you need to talk please call me anytime day or nite just at nite please give me a min to wake up a little first, I love talking to you your like a breath of fresh air.
So just to let you know I am your friend and we can talk about anything anytime you like.I'm sorry about your teacher tho,sounds like he says one thing but means another,And as far as doctors go don't let them get you down,As for me you know this, they give me no problems I guess cause I am a lucky one yrs ago and got all the free testing done at the med center,You know from are talks that i was 1 of 2 known to that hosp at that time,but anyway Kailana don't ever be afraid to call me to talk anytime you need too. For if we can't stick together as a group then whats the point in all this O.K. love lisa.
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Old 07-10-07, 06:04 PM
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Thanks Lisa

thank you for caring and i'm ok, just had a bad bought, i tend to keep things in and then stress about them later. Sort of like causing my own delayed depressive episodes. Overall im doing alot better, its just that if i think about things to much... well i end up dwelling on things and not letting em go. Whitch only makes things even worse later. Thanks for caring.
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Old 07-11-07, 04:14 PM
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you two both know eachother a lot longer......so i hope i am not intruding tooooo much

i am only new here and hope to be old here one day and get to know you slowly but surely

i hope that my posts havent thrown you off your own hunts for conversation

i am not conservative..... more....convers-ative

and dont want to convert

i do want to impress
and lessen the stress
and sometimes dance in a dress
give out less
and not create mess-es
while i chat with the missus
and i would miss you
if you thought i mis-used you
and i had to lose u
i would take out a tiss-ue
cry my eyes out
think of a scream and shout
but then i´d twist and shout
and get lout
and loud
and
LOUDER

3 ´s a crowd

hope thats ok!
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