Just saying goodbye to all of you here. I really have spent way too much time and effort posting here, especially considering that nobody bothers to read my posts.

Message received.

Natasha

what a cop-out! geeeese i write stuff and it will be weeks before someone says something ... but i dont give up...beach

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Yeah, please don't go Tasha. You invited me here.

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Cheers,
Meresa

There will be no second-class citizens in this society.
-- Chuck Panozzo

Natasha please, the posts here can be slow but I have read all your posts and have spent some time e-mailing you privately. I do get overwelmed with school and work so I'm slow to post myself, but I don't think that it's anybodys elses fault if you don't want to post anymore. A lot of people here value your two cents you should value it too. :( No matter who does not reply

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You really have to love yourself, to get anything done in this world!

Julanne

HUHH!! I see how you are

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You really have to love yourself, to get anything done in this world!

Julanne

um. what prompted this?
i think you get some good responses.
for instance on your surgery post people went and researched that doctor to try to find info for you.

on most boards, people wouldnt even do stuff like that.

No I have not been rethinking my decision to leave. I was curious to see if any replies would be the sort I expected, and for the most part they are.

Now bearing in mind that friends don't even need an explanation. I can't help but notice, that people here wont even accept the explanation I did offer.

Oddly enough, lately what I have been rethinking, is what I consider really a friend to be. While there have been a few here who have been nice to me, and others polite, and even one or two who have been helpful upon occasion. That is but friendly, or friend like, but this is not what friends are made of. Friends are people who actually help you bury the body, not those who merely hope you don't get the death penalty.

For some time now I have been considering leaving. I have wrestled back and forth with my feelings about it, and after reading the replies here, I remain content with my decision. For friends don't need an explanation, and your enemies will never accept one anyway. It is clear to me now, it would have been something eventually anyway, no mater what.

So I being very friendly toward you all, do wish you well and the very best of everything, and also I bid you goodbye. Baring my very soul and laboring to write from my very heart in threads which are followed by banal, off topic, nonsense and cut up humor, is an obvious waste of my time. I deserve far better.

Natasha

PS

To Meresa, whom I have really been there for and supported through thick and thin, when nobody else would.

Yes Meresa I did invite you, and I greeted you warmly upon your arrival. What was your response to my greeting? It was while on the surface friendly, yet a very brusque four words. Later in another thread, I asked you how long we had been friends. What was your reply then? Why nothing at all, but dead silence. Upon your arrival at my invitation, you also wrote of how normal you are, not queer in any way, and you do not want to be associated with people like that. All while maintaining an aloof posture toward me.

I feel strongly that your remarks about queer people and your vehemence in distancing yourself from them, considering the venue, are extremely insensitive and self serving. It is clear that you are ashamed of me, and so I now find myself disgusted with you.

No Natasha, you're wrong. A friend wouldn't help bury the body. A true friend would plead with you to turn yourself in.

"Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses."

Natasha, this is a support site. Isn't support why you came? Is it really support for us always to tell you how great your posts are? Isn't it better, rather, to be told things that will help you to heal? You've been through some terrible things in your life. Isn't it worth a little pain to get better?

Having suffered as you have, does it surprise you so much that others may have suffered as well? And that they may try to mask the hurt and cheer you up with "nonsense and cut up humor?"

Friends don't cut and run either, Natasha, not every time their feelings are hurt or every time they aren't coddled.

Natasha, I help you when I can. I will continue to do so as I have time. Please don't play games. If you want support then stay and be reconciled. I, for one, will be glad that you did.

your friend,
cjs

Let me say first that your posts to bodies have been very helpfull to me and to other members, and I'm sure helpfull to yourself because we are allowed to vent some fustration here. I injoyed our emails and did look foward to talking to you again but now I feel betrayed.

First off, this is not the Breakfast Club! If we happen to find that we become friends with others members here then all the more power to us, but the main point of bodies is:

1# To share storys so we don't feel so alone.

2# To give support to those who are struggling with
intersexualism.

3# to make aware that to many doctors mutulate intersexed children.

Now the order might not be correct, but this is what bodies is NOT.

1#It is not a place to show disgust to the other members.

2#It is not a place to criticize the members for posting or not
posting.

3# it is the wrong place to label people as friends or non friends.

Any of these issues can be talked about on a PM to the person you have a problem with.

Also, if you thought before hand that you were going to leave us anyway... then it was "you" who was wasteing our time.

It is "you" who is leaving "us" to bury the body, while you hit the high road and hope "we" don't get the death penalty, as you put it.

The truth is you don't have any "good reason" to blame us for your goodbye, but because it takes the blame off "yourself" for leaving a unhappy message, and leaving us in general, you feel better by telling us that you didn't make any friends here.

Your are "sour grapes" Natasha, I wished I could have talked to on PM because I don't realy feel comfortable saying this in front of everone else, but you left me no choice.

I "like" the members of bodies and I will defend them all, even if they all are human, and do things that humans do.

"You" are a human too Natasha, just like me
You think that you deserve "better" the support that bodies gives?

Goodbye.. Natasha .. I'm sorry you feel this way.

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Julanne