[Dana Gold]

I suppose it was never the intention of either term (intersex or DSD) to create the divisions (quite evident in this thread) between people who were born and/or developed physical conditions (primary and/or secondary sex characteristics) that conflicted with the norm of ideal female or male; often accompanied by a range of mild to severe health problems. It is not my place to say either is better than the other any more; certainly both terms (as discussed here and elsewhere) have their positives and negatives. My particular condition (originally diagnosed as Klinefelters until karyotype came back 46XY) now termed a form of hypogonadism due to unknown causes has not really fit the criteria of what used to be (and still somewhat is) considered "genuine" intersex, according to standards defined by some. But it does definitely fall under the DSD "category". Being trans somehow put a negative factor into the former, and quite possible may do so in the latter; so I have little confidence in either in that respect. I don't consider myself a disease, but I can understand why those (Katy and others), who with severe CAH , consider their condition a disease or disorder.....and do not like the term intersex. To a certain extent, I, too, have and have had medical issues related to my hypogonadism. I can also understand and relate to what you, Jim, have said. In my opinion, the polarization between the conflicting viewpoints only serves to make me feel that less confident in human nature being able to see the real problem at hand…and it is not those who consider themselves intersex and dislike DSD; nor is it those who consider themselves DSD and not intersex. You (and other longtime BLO members) know what I mean, Jim. I’ve emphatically stated it many times in past rants. Nowadays, for my health, I try to be less vociferous and emotional about it. It’s sad to see those of us who are considered not normal (i.e,; diseased, disordered, or immoral) by the beep-beep-beeps ….the “N” word….) be divisive about it all. I’m wondering if a “coalition” or at least an acknowledgment can be made that recognizes the positives and negatives of both…and can work from there to make life better (medically, socially/legally, and psychologically) for all of us. I have a feeling that it will take a lot of time and effort. In the meanwhile, we shouldn’t let disagreements lead to rejection of one or the other…..or each other.

Dana