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Originally Posted by Rycharde

Well this big IQ of mine says that (although you may not like me being here because of it) that some people may consider me as trans.

I was raised to be allowed to be anything I want. And despite politics I don't want to grow up into a woman, I want to grow up into a man. I don't consider this being trans because it's not a transition.

I am here to LEARN about a condition BEFORE I see a doctor so I am prepared and have an understanding of what the condition implies prior to having medical treatment.

Also like I stated, no matter what my condition is, I feel that I need my testosterone.

The simple question I want answered is because CAH is an adrenal disorder, how would that effect being prescribed testosterone to further my masculinity?

The fact is I am very masculine in mind and quite masculine in body, I like myself this way and wish to continue growing as a man.

So if you feel like you are warding off another tranny until you see me come on here with some tests that say I'm IS from a doctor then that's just plain rude.

I know a lot of trannys get jealous of people who are born with some decent explanation for having wanting to be of the opposite sex but then why would I choose to pretend I have CAH to make myself justified, that is just stupid.

I wanted to be a little boy far before any disorder would have had a masculine effect on me, I'm just plain male gendered- regardless of medical condition and confident with it.

So here I go using that huge IQ of mine to cut that apart and I'd like to request that the community here help me in learning about how transmen with CAH are treated and the risks/medical issues involved in being treated with cortisone AND testosterone. If a doctor would be against that.

I'm here to learn, I'm not asking you to diagnose me. I know only a doctor can do that.

I want to know the consequences of this diagnosis on my life as a man and how it will effect me maturing into a normal male.

And I want to add, that it feels really crappy to be turned away and given a cold shoulder by jealous trans men and IS people who accuse me of being just another jealous tranny. It hurts you know. I'm human and I have a right to learn.

Hi Rycharde,

I do understand your concern about the medical implications of CAH and, .... sorry I have to say it, because I can't even dream up a way to say it, without saying it, ..... your desire to receive transformative (is that a word?) testosterone treatment to become a man physically.

I am not "anti-trans", and personally I believe that applying gender deconstructionist logic to such affairs of the heart, psyche/soul, is rather pointless. However, .... since I myself am 'not smart' and lack fancy educational credentials, .... I will yet try to apply a touch of (what I call) logic, in a limited way, to "gender". I will however do so, in a way in which I intend as helpful, rather than merely dismissive.

From my perspective, gender is wholly insubstantial, having no objectively quantifiable substance, and really the sole problem with "it", is that society seeks to place objective criteria upon "something" which is subjective and deeply personal, as if "it" is somehow real, being even also oddly "sacred" and of immense importance, and in my book that is nothing short of stupid.

So then, there's "the rub of the green" as applied to ping-pong, which results in those whose "sexual appearance" and or "gender behavior" is at odds with any one of the many widely varying arbitrary "standards", .... being told that they may not enter the "country club" at all, .... or in "better circumstance", being forced to endure limited probationary membership.

I am, BION =), trying to be concise and brief, and yet I think it may be helpful to you if I add the following.

In my case, as one born 'other', to this very day I find that I am often unable to fit, within the narrow and artificial criteria for "correct gender behavior" arbitrarily designated, for either males 'or' females, and physically, depending upon how closely I am examined, I do not fit the "male or female" criteria "medically" either.

As you know, "behavioral standards" vary by location, and "appearance standards" do also. How my physical appearance will be judged, depends upon, how large a magnifying glass ->or<- how heavy an 'ax to grind', is being carried by the local Sex and Gender Paradigm Enforcement Agency [SAGPEA] agents, at any particular place in time.

Now please bear in mind that the SAGPEA recruits from among those of all "races", ethnicities, social "classes", and any sort of background one can possibly imagine, and they wear no uniform, carry no credentials of any kind, and they have no operations guidelines or even limitations upon their power or authority. They have no rules, no badges, and they can and will do to you, whatever they like and believe they can get away with, in any given time and place. They make the SS and DHS look like newly born kittens by comparison.

The following locations, are where one will find the highest ranking and most ruthless among SAGPEA agents, on high alert 24/7 365, and I have placed them in rough order of their potential ruthless severity.

Gay Space - Wimyn Space - Man Space - Tranny Space - Intersex Space - Normal Space - Special Undesignated Other Space - Left Space - Right Space- Middle Space - Traditional Space - Non Transitional Space - Religious Space - Non Religious Space - Theist Space - Non Theist Space - Atheist Space - Old Space - New Space - Rich Space - Poor Space - Middle Income Space - Urban Space - Suburban Space - Rural Space - Edge-u-ma-cated (sic) Space - Sophisticated Space - Spaced Out Space - Academic Space - Medical Space - Space Not Otherwise Specified Space .... and ... you know, the way things are in this stupid universe, very likely even - Outer Space - as well.

Rycharde, I really do also understand, that one may become somewhat traumatized, hence sensitized or even weaponized or at the very least a bit defensive, because of all the crap, anyone, intersexed or not, has to endure at the hands of SAGPEA agents. I apologize for this, even though it is not my fault, and I further understand it is not your fault either. It is just the way it is. Let us try to communicate therefor.

Miriam was just trying to tell you, that there really is no way to predict how a "doctor" will react to you, within your circumstances, and only a doctor can diagnosis you.

Please, try to understand, that many people come here seeking that which we cannot give. It is not that we will not, or that we refuse to, but rather it is that we simply can not.

I can offer, the following advice, about how to limit potential psychic trauma in your endeavor though.

Try not to mention your high IQ. It is not that anyone will resent you for actually being more intelligent than others. No really it is that others will immediately be flagged by such an, unintelligent and therefor self contradicting, assertion, even though you are surely more intelligent than that, and probably even more intelligent than even you really know. It's just so wholly unnecessary. =)

I advise against any statements, even remotely like, "don't hate me because I am more intelligent than you are", .... or ..... "don't hate me me because I am more beautiful than you are" ..... or .... "don't hate me because I am more legitimate, valid or whatever, than you, or even 'they', are".

Such statements tend to put others off from the outset, perhaps even especially more so here, because such really appear to come from someone seeking acceptance, in addition to legitimization, even also from among those of us here .... whom you aparently just presume to be both unintelligent 'and' stiffly snobbish.

See what I mean? We are not a bunch of stuffed shirts and bigots, who feel ourselves to be above trans people, having a "special club" we just refuse to admit you too. =)

I think we got off on a "bad foot", and a short breather is called for before resuming.