Does anyone have any stats on the breakdown of genital surgeries female vs. male?

I should add, I am seeking stats on genital surgeries performed at birth, to "correct" so-called "atypical genitalia."

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do you mean male vs female after surgery or before surgery?

I meant babies who, for example mostly exhibit "female" characteristics before the so-called "correction."

The point is, has there historically been a trend toward "correcting" more females vs. males? Statisitics can shed some light on this.

I may have to do a little digging, myself. Just thought someone may have those handy; stats on corrective surgeries performed on babies from the beginning of stat-keeping for such procedures.

Update: I've just done a ten-minute search; looks like this "important" surgery, possibly done on as many as 1 in 2000 babies, is not very important, statistically.

I've written the American Academy of Pediatrics (the sage folks whose recommendations on this butchery doctors follow) to get their stats...

We'll see...

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It's a bit convoluted of an issue to get clear stats. As CJ wrote, before or after surgery? Most IGM surgeries result in the infant being a girl because the procedure is easier. Does, it "make" them female in their own mind, probably not as illustrated by the recent Reiner work.

Betsy

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There is a deeper issue here I am trying to get at.

I'll keep digging...

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Quote:

"Approximately five times a day in the U.S., surgeons change the size and shape of a child's healthy clitoris."

Read the article at:
http://www.pfc.org.uk/news/2000/mtcut-ms.htm

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Whoa...living large Billie Q!

That five times a day is in the US alone. It's a real travesty that it happens, and happens so quietly and so regularly. It's also one of the major focuses of the intersex movement to end that horror. However, that quote is wrong or misleading. The surgeries encompass gender reassignments done on infants, surgeries for hypospadius (so the boy can stand to pee), gonad removal, sadly, this list can go on.

It's really a two-fold movement---end the surgeries, and erase the shame and secrecy surrounding IS. Not a day goes without me getting at least one email from someone who is beginning their journey of self-discovery and never once talked to, emailed, or met another person with a body like theirs.

And it is such a no-brainer concept. Society says IS bodies are a problem, yet it is a problem that society created in their reactions to us.

Betsy

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I don't know which "experts" the article quotes:

quote:
"Approximately 2,000 children a year have genital surgery in the U.S. Experts say the vast majority are girls who lose parts of their clitorises and, less commonly, little boys who are changed into girls in an attempt to give them what doctors believe will be a better life."

This is the information I was looking for (included in bold within the quote). I will continue looking to see how many baby girls lose their clitorises each year.

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More to the point - how many girls had their penises amputated or "reduced" every year, how many girls have their testicles removed, and how many intersexed babies (boys, girls or other) are surgically altered to look more like females and then had a woman's identity forced on them whether it fit or not? A man with a vagina is a man with a vagina, not a woman. A woman with a micro-penis is just that. When we're told a person has certain genitals, or genitals that are kinda both, sorta neither that's all we know. We don't know that they are men or women, male or female. They may be any of those things or somewhere inbetween - hence INTER-sex. Binary sex is a myth. Sex does not equal gender and gender does not equal identity.

If you're looking for a sexist bias that is anti-female I'd be very suprised if you found it. The imposed surgical model was based entirely on what surgical technique was easier- it was literally referred to as "making a hole is easier that making a pole so make them all female-ish." I think the sexist bias was anti-intersex.

Jim